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 sitdownstandup  21 May 17 9.28am |
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Originally posted by VeganPower
The three main reasons that people change to a vegan diet (in no particular order) are 1. For the environment. Vegan food uses maybe a tenth of the land/water/resources that it takes to feed a meat eater. The reduction in greenhouse gasses methane and CO2 is huge. The increase in biodiversity enabled by a massive movement away from farmland used for animals is also significant. 2. Animal welfare. 59 billion animals are kept on farms for meat eaters. Many of these animals live miserable lives in appalling conditions. Think huge, packed, concrete floored sheds. 3. Health. Fruit and veg are good for you. Jermaine Defoe credits a vegan diet for keeping him at the top of his game well into his 30's. Serena Williams does too. I love the taste of meat and fish. I am a foodie, I enjoy every meal. But I also like animals, I like to stay healthy and I like to know that I am doing my bit to maintain a sustainable environment for the future of my family and the rest of the human race. So I choose veganism. My wife and I are also good cooks, so our food tastes good. It will also help to get food to people who need it. We currently can feed billions of animals for the meat industry yet people, even in this country, are going hungry. It takes more than 2,000 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef and only 25 gallons to produce the same amount of wheat.
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VeganPower  Chesham 21 May 17 9.43am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I've eaten in a lot of restaurants where the lobsters are kept live in a tank and I must admit that I'm squeamish enough never to have ordered one. So, the only thing that probably keeps you in the meat eating game is that you have managed to shut off that part of your brain that connects the suffering of the animal to the meat on your plate.
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| VeganPower Chesham 21 May 17 9.44am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Fair dos. At the very least an animal bound for the dinner plate should have the basic right to a decent life before the end no matter how short. We have laws but obviously not stringent enough. A vegan PM would be quite interesting. Corbyn is vegetarian
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| Midlands Eagle 21 May 17 10.26am |
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Originally posted by VeganPower
So, the only thing that probably keeps you in the meat eating game is that you have managed to shut off that part of your brain that connects the suffering of the animal to the meat on your plate. I'm not convinced that lobsters suffer and as far as animals go I won't touch battery reared chickens or Danish pork and bacon. I am lucky enough to live close to Packington organic pork farm and every day I see the pigs and piglets outside enjoying life and whilst ultimately they are going to be killed (humanely) they still have a better life than supermarket pork. What does surprise me is that the price differential between a tasty joint of pork from the farm shop and the cardboard rubbish sold by supermarkets is very small
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| VeganPower Chesham 21 May 17 10.43am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm not convinced that lobsters suffer and as far as animals go I won't touch battery reared chickens or Danish pork and bacon. I am lucky enough to live close to Packington organic pork farm and every day I see the pigs and piglets outside enjoying life and whilst ultimately they are going to be killed (humanely) they still have a better life than supermarket pork. What does surprise me is that the price differential between a tasty joint of pork from the farm shop and the cardboard rubbish sold by supermarkets is very small I personally don't think a humane killing is possible of an animal that would like to live.
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| sitdownstandup 21 May 17 11.17am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm not convinced that lobsters suffer and as far as animals go I won't touch battery reared chickens or Danish pork and bacon. I am lucky enough to live close to Packington organic pork farm and every day I see the pigs and piglets outside enjoying life and whilst ultimately they are going to be killed (humanely) they still have a better life than supermarket pork. What does surprise me is that the price differential between a tasty joint of pork from the farm shop and the cardboard rubbish sold by supermarkets is very small Most pigs are gassed to death. There isn't really a humane way to kill an animal that doesn't want to die.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 21 May 17 11.29am |
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The Humane Slaughter Association has all you need to know about animals up for the food chain.
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| legaleagle 21 May 17 11.49am |
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There is no "humane" slaughter...whether of animals or people...deliberate killing is slaughter full stop. I'm not a vegetarian...but I don't kid myself its somehow ethically squeaky clean because I only have steak and chips where the cow is killed "humanely"
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| sitdownstandup 21 May 17 12.13pm |
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There is a video entitled 'slaughtering pigs in a humane way' and the most telling thing is that although it is 3 minutes long it doesn't actually show the slaughter process, only the pigs being led to slaughter which is pretty scary anyway. [Link] (slaughtering pigs in a humane way) There are plenty of other places where you can find the actual slaughtering process on video, most of it quite terrible.
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| VicTH CR2 8TG 21 May 17 12.24pm |
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cummon, some of my family have been vegan for years and Ive have more discussions than watching palace play . You find that most discussions come form others ie why are you vegan why are you veggie. you dont get why are you not a vegan not a veggie (not often). Respect othere either way dont impose its life deal with it. Anyway keep this aboiut football we all have to live our life how we see fit. CPFC
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| VeganPower Chesham 21 May 17 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
There is no "humane" slaughter...whether of animals or people...deliberate killing is slaughter full stop. I'm not a vegetarian...but I don't kid myself its somehow ethically squeaky clean because I only have steak and chips where the cow is killed "humanely" You are a good person, you can change your diet, I believe in you
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| VeganPower Chesham 21 May 17 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by VicTH
cummon, some of my family have been vegan for years and Ive have more discussions than watching palace play . You find that most discussions come form others ie why are you vegan why are you veggie. you dont get why are you not a vegan not a veggie (not often). Respect othere either way dont impose its life deal with it. Anyway keep this aboiut football we all have to live our life how we see fit. CPFC Have you tried vegan hot dogs? Would you really mind replacing them for the meat ones currently served at the Arthur Waite Canteen? I love going to Selhurst, I would love to see only healthy, environmentally sustainable, cruelty free vegan food served at the ground, like Forest Green have.
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