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Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 11 Jul 15 9.43pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Straightbackup at 11 Jul 2015 5.23pm Quote vinnyeagle at 11 Jul 2015 4.43pm What if those 5-7 extra goals win us the game 2-1 or 3-2 or even an equaliser and gain us extra 10-12 points? I would say that is momey well spent. As I say, this is the unknown factor- Austin's 18 last season weren't able to keep QPR up and we have no idea how important (or not) those 5-7 goals might be. Also, I'm not overly convinced that Austin is as much of a provider or a handful as Murray so you need to factor that in as well- that's why it's so difficult to know if it's money well spent or not At it's simplest, it's money well spent just to deny him to the other 19 PL teams. I also enjoy posting on: Love Everton Forum, the Acceptable Face of Scouse Football. [Link] twitter.com/LuvEvertonForum Come and give it a look, new members would be lovely. Come and JOIN. Or they'll nick your telly.
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What if those 5-7 extra goals win us the game 2-1 or 3-2 or even an equaliser and gain us extra 10-12 points?

I would say that is momey well spent.

As I say, this is the unknown factor- Austin's 18 last season weren't able to keep QPR up and we have no idea how important (or not) those 5-7 goals might be. Also, I'm not overly convinced that Austin is as much of a provider or a handful as Murray so you need to factor that in as well- that's why it's so difficult to know if it's money well spent or not

At it's simplest, it's money well spent just to deny him to the other 19 PL teams.

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Stirlingsays 11 Jul 15 9.52pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 He's not worth £15m in my opinion. I rate Rhodes higher personally and he's cheaper comparing both I feel Austin is the lesser striker. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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He's not worth £15m in my opinion.

I rate Rhodes higher personally and he's cheaper comparing both I feel Austin is the lesser striker.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jul 15 9.59pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Jul 2015 9.52pm He's not worth £15m in my opinion. I rate Rhodes higher personally and he's cheaper comparing both I feel Austin is the lesser striker. Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not..... Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jul 15 9.59pm

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Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Jul 2015 9.52pm

He's not worth £15m in my opinion.

I rate Rhodes higher personally and he's cheaper comparing both I feel Austin is the lesser striker.

Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not.....

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Qwijibo Bournemouth 11 Jul 15 10.07pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Straightbackup at 11 Jul 2015 3.06pm Quote Canterbury Palace at 11 Jul 2015 2.35pm Quote maddog at 11 Jul 2015 1.54pm Quote Canterbury Palace at 11 Jul 2015 1.04pm Quote maddog at 11 Jul 2015 12.45pm Quote Cannonball at 11 Jul 2015 10.08am Austin is overrated imo..What can he offer us that Muzza cant do ? 18 goals? Last season. Glenn Murray 866 Prem minutes played 7 goals 124 minutes per goal Charlie Austin 3069 Prem minutes played 18 goals scored 171 minutes per goal Stretching Murray's goals per game ratio to the amount of minutes Austin played would have seen Murray score 24 goals and that's rounding down. Not saying I don't want Austin but to suggest Murray can't do it is unfounded. Charlie Austin actually scored 18 goals last season. Murray didn't even if you add in his games at Reading. Be that as it may, I don't think you can categorically say that Murray can't score 15/20 goals in a full Premier League season until he's given a proper chance which he hasn't been so far. I'd love us to sign Austin or Remy and either would automatically become first choice striker but if we don't then I have faith in Murray's ability based on the goals he's scored so far. I agree. I think, given a full season Murray will get 15-20 BUT Austin would probably get you 20-25. He got 18 in a poor side last season. We Have Cabaye, Puncheon, Zaha and Bolasie providing and the wingers are only going to improve in their final delivery. The question is- would an extra 5-7 goals justify a spend of £15m? If we could predict what that would mean in terms of league position now then you'd have an answer but as we can't I think the only reason you would shell out that kind of cash is to stop the likes of West Ham, Stoke, Swansea or Southampton buying him- they are the teams we need to be finishing above of we want to finish in the top 8 and he will get you goals The 5-7 goals plus the 5 year age gap justify the extra money
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Austin is overrated imo..What can he offer us that Muzza cant do ?

18 goals?

Last season.

Glenn Murray

866 Prem minutes played
7 goals
124 minutes per goal

Charlie Austin

3069 Prem minutes played
18 goals scored
171 minutes per goal

Stretching Murray's goals per game ratio to the amount of minutes Austin played would have seen Murray score 24 goals and that's rounding down. Not saying I don't want Austin but to suggest Murray can't do it is unfounded.

Charlie Austin actually scored 18 goals last season. Murray didn't even if you add in his games at Reading.

Be that as it may, I don't think you can categorically say that Murray can't score 15/20 goals in a full Premier League season until he's given a proper chance which he hasn't been so far. I'd love us to sign Austin or Remy and either would automatically become first choice striker but if we don't then I have faith in Murray's ability based on the goals he's scored so far.

I agree. I think, given a full season Murray will get 15-20 BUT Austin would probably get you 20-25. He got 18 in a poor side last season. We Have Cabaye, Puncheon, Zaha and Bolasie providing and the wingers are only going to improve in their final delivery. The question is- would an extra 5-7 goals justify a spend of £15m? If we could predict what that would mean in terms of league position now then you'd have an answer but as we can't I think the only reason you would shell out that kind of cash is to stop the likes of West Ham, Stoke, Swansea or Southampton buying him- they are the teams we need to be finishing above of we want to finish in the top 8 and he will get you goals

The 5-7 goals plus the 5 year age gap justify the extra money

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Stirlingsays 11 Jul 15 10.13pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Jimenez at 11 Jul 2015 9.59pm Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not..... I think when you actually watch Rhodes it's obvious who is more effective. No one had to tell me that Murray would score in the Premiership if he were given the chances or Gayle. It's about the ability to judge a player. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote Jimenez at 11 Jul 2015 9.59pm

Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not.....

I think when you actually watch Rhodes it's obvious who is more effective.

No one had to tell me that Murray would score in the Premiership if he were given the chances or Gayle.

It's about the ability to judge a player.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Soon Bald Eagle Aalesund 11 Jul 15 10.21pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Glen Murray is my man, he is a natural goalscorer, no doubt about that.Let him start all games and he will be close to 20 goals a season. No need to waste money on Mr Austin in less it doesn`t cost us to much. Edited by Soon Bald Eagle (11 Jul 2015 10.22pm) Edited by Soon Bald Eagle (11 Jul 2015 10.22pm)
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Glen Murray is my man, he is a natural goalscorer, no doubt about that.Let him start all games and he will be close to 20 goals a season.
No need to waste money on Mr Austin in less it doesn`t cost us to much.

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black eagle. south croydon. 11 Jul 15 10.21pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Someone on the bbs said that we've made a bid for Balotelli. i hope this isn't true.
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Someone on the bbs said that we've made a bid for Balotelli.

i hope this isn't true.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jul 15 10.29pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Stirlingsays at 11 Jul 2015 10.13pm Quote Jimenez at 11 Jul 2015 9.59pm Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not..... I think when you actually watch Rhodes it's obvious who is more effective. No one had to tell me that Murray would score in the Premiership if he were given the chances or Gayle. It's about the ability to judge a player. I'm presuming you weren't being pompous then? Pro USA & Israel
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Quote Jimenez at 11 Jul 2015 9.59pm

Austin is proven in the EPL, Rhodes is not.....

I think when you actually watch Rhodes it's obvious who is more effective.

No one had to tell me that Murray would score in the Premiership if he were given the chances or Gayle.

It's about the ability to judge a player.

I'm presuming you weren't being pompous then?

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stanzerman Hastings 11 Jul 15 11.45pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 People forget that Murrays time at Reading was to get his match fitness back after his cruciate operation. Some of the things being said about him now are the same things that were said about him when he came to us from Brighton e.g 'yes he scored a lot of goals but that was in division one, he wont be able to do it in the championship' Boy was that wrong! Murray and Austin have very similiar styles of play, both can score in the Prem. but £15 million pounds is a lot of money for someone who QPR got on the cheap because he failed a medical at another club. Stanzerman
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People forget that Murrays time at Reading was to get his match fitness back after his cruciate operation. Some of the things being said about him now are the same things that were said about him when he came to us from Brighton e.g 'yes he scored a lot of goals but that was in division one, he wont be able to do it in the championship' Boy was that wrong!
Murray and Austin have very similiar styles of play, both can score in the Prem. but £15 million pounds is a lot of money for someone who QPR got on the cheap because he failed a medical at another club.

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sydtheeagle England 12 Jul 15 9.58am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Don't know if anyone heard it but there was an extremely interesting and quite insightful interview with the agent, Paul Smith, on Talksport yesterday evening. Among other things, and among many transfers he discussed, he said Austin was a press myth. The reality is that there is very little interest in him and the only firm expression of interest has come from Norwich. The noise was entirely down to the media wanting something to write about and possibly his agent and the selling club trying to drum up interest. He hinted that Austin was a second tier player with a past injury problem and the reality of any transfer was nothing like what we're reading in the press. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Don't know if anyone heard it but there was an extremely interesting and quite insightful interview with the agent, Paul Smith, on Talksport yesterday evening. Among other things, and among many transfers he discussed, he said Austin was a press myth. The reality is that there is very little interest in him and the only firm expression of interest has come from Norwich. The noise was entirely down to the media wanting something to write about and possibly his agent and the selling club trying to drum up interest. He hinted that Austin was a second tier player with a past injury problem and the reality of any transfer was nothing like what we're reading in the press.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jul 15 10.09am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote black eagle. at 11 Jul 2015 10.21pm Someone on the bbs said that we've made a bid for Balotelli. i hope this isn't true. I would love that, play every game and you've got your 20 goal a season striker. Even if he is an utter fruitcake. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Quote black eagle. at 11 Jul 2015 10.21pm

Someone on the bbs said that we've made a bid for Balotelli.

i hope this isn't true.

I would love that, play every game and you've got your 20 goal a season striker.

Even if he is an utter fruitcake.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jul 15 10.12am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Jul 2015 9.58am Don't know if anyone heard it but there was an extremely interesting and quite insightful interview with the agent, Paul Smith, on Talksport yesterday evening. Among other things, and among many transfers he discussed, he said Austin was a press myth. The reality is that there is very little interest in him and the only firm expression of interest has come from Norwich. The noise was entirely down to the media wanting something to write about and possibly his agent and the selling club trying to drum up interest. He hinted that Austin was a second tier player with a past injury problem and the reality of any transfer was nothing like what we're reading in the press. I didnt hear it, but it wouldn't sound out of place form he media to make assumptions. He scored 18 goals & got relegated and got into the england squad, if we could chuck campbell& mariappa into the mix as reported and pay 6m that would be a good deal for us. But to pay North of 12m up front would be a huge risk. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Jul 2015 9.58am

I didnt hear it, but it wouldn't sound out of place form he media to make assumptions.

He scored 18 goals & got relegated and got into the england squad, if we could chuck campbell& mariappa into the mix as reported and pay 6m that would be a good deal for us. But to pay North of 12m up front would be a huge risk.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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