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 The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 09 Apr 13 2.56pm |
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Is all this delight in the demise of an 87 year old woman with dementia proportionate or indeed seemly ?? Not too much class on display is there ? Whatever you thought of her as a PM or the mythical creature she has grown into she is hardly up there as historys greatest monster As for murdering c*** McGuiness...
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 09 Apr 13 2.57pm |
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Quote since1953 at 09 Apr 2013 2.15pm
A quote from Mrs. T. "The problem with Capitalism is that you quickly run out of others peoples money"
For the life of me I don't see how Thatcher would have supported the banks in quite the same way. Hayek policy is to let a poor business fail. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2013 2.44pm) It was her and Reagan that helped bring in the dawn of deregulation and neo-liberalism, for that she is responsible (partly) for the mess we are in now. Many on this thread have said that selling off housing stock and not replacing it was a bad mistake-a shame then that Osborne (yay I spelled it right!) offered similar ideas in his recent budget. Do we not learn from mistaks?
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| Stirlingsays 09 Apr 13 3.03pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 2.57pm
It was her and Reagan that helped bring in the dawn of deregulation and neo-liberalism, for that she is responsible (partly) for the mess we are in now. Many on this thread have said that selling off housing stock and not replacing it was a bad mistake-a shame then that Osborne (yay I spelled it right!) offered similar ideas in his recent budget. Do we not learn from mistaks? Deregulation from where we were wasn't a bad idea but like everything else massive risks have to be accounted for. Thatcher wasn't in the habit of supporting failing businesses and it's hard for me to see the culture of 'too big to fail' being allowed to spring up. I don't know enough about it but that's my suspicion. Don't forget she's been gone for twenty years.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Apr 13 3.08pm |
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THE general public has been warned of the health and safety pitfalls of dancing on Thatcher’s grave. It'll be really cold with loads of armed police An estimated 15,000,000 have promised to cavort on Baroness Thatcher’s grave, without stopping to consider the practicalities. A Health & Safety Executive spokesman said: “It’s not the Ministry of Sound or something, it’s going to be some sort of oblong roughly the size of an old lady. “We’re concerned about levels of overcrowding and also the slipperiness as people fulfill their secondary aim of urinating on the former PM’s remains. “It’s a potential disaster zone. Thatcher’s grave could be the biggest threat to the NHS since Thatcher.” 54-year-old Julian Cook said: “I always used to go on about this in the pub so I feel a bit obliged, but I’m starting to think I might look weird dancing on a grave. I mean, I’ve got grown-up kids. “Also the only dance I can do is this thing where I waggle my shoulders and make odd pointing gestures. And a bit of salsa.” Mother-of-two Emma Bradford was also concerned: “What will we actually dance to? “You can’t really dance to Billy Bragg, and much as I hated Thatcher I can’t bring myself to download any Chumbawamba. “To be honest I might just stay in and watch telly.” Edited by nickgusset (09 Apr 2013 3.08pm)
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 09 Apr 13 3.10pm |
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Quote since1953 at 09 Apr 2013 2.15pm
A quote from Mrs. T. "The problem with Capitalism is that you quickly run out of others peoples money"
For the life of me I don't see how Thatcher would have supported the banks in quite the same way. Hayek policy is to let a poor business fail. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2013 2.44pm)
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Attachment: | Bin Liner London , Southfields 09 Apr 13 3.20pm |
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Reading that there will be no plans for a minutes silence at all of this weekends football games, I wonder why!
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 09 Apr 13 3.24pm |
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Care in the Community. Leaving vulnerable people at the mercy of society and also putting the public at risk. Selling of Publicly owned assets. That was my money you thieving witch. Nepotism. How on earth did your useless son become rich ? You must have learnt from George Bush Snr. You were the Tinman in the Wizard of Oz. You had the courage and the brains,....you just needed a heart
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Apr 13 3.34pm |
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Quote serial thriller at 09 Apr 2013 3.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 09 Apr 2013 2.40pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 09 Apr 2013 2.33pm
Quote since1953 at 09 Apr 2013 2.15pm
A quote from Mrs. T. "The problem with Capitalism is that you quickly run out of others peoples money"
For the life of me I don't see how Thatcher would have supported the banks in quite the same way. Hayek policy is to let a poor business fail. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2013 2.44pm)
Thats my kind of boom and BUST/ A nice boyant soluton to my contraction / the Hayek soluton presents a bounce that can stimulate growth. Delete as prefered.
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| Stuk Top half 09 Apr 13 3.34pm |
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Quote Bin Liner at 09 Apr 2013 3.20pm
Reading that there will be no plans for a minutes silence at all of this weekends football games, I wonder why! Because it wasn't done when the last 4 PMs died either, perhaps. The Sash is about the only one making salient points on this thread now, most of you are arguing over 30 year old "what ifs".
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 09 Apr 13 3.48pm |
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I don't think there will be another prime minister ever who divides opinion as much as she did. You only have to look at the debate on here and all over the country really that shows you that the left have to admit she got some things right. And the right have to admit that she got some things wrong. One thing I did respect her for was once she made up her mind she stuck with it, even though at times she probably knew with hindsight it was wrong. But the public expect strong leaders. This has always been the way over hundreds of years. As prime minister you are paid to make decisions, massive decisions that change peoples lives. You're never gonna keep everyone happy but I would rather someone stay true to there word rather chop and change there mind which shows weakness. My old man always voted for her. He was a copper and she was a massive supporter of the old bill, promising them a massive pay rise before she came to power and implementing the rise immediately. Although we now know that was all part of a master plan in her quest to take on the unions. She basically guarenteed the votes of every copper in England and Wales and there families and of course they went on to earn a fortune during the miners strikes. My old man was based up in Derby for that. More or less paid half his mortgage off. Not gloating just shows you the two ends of the spectrum on how she affected people. You had working class people on one side losing there jobs, homes etc and working class people on the other side making a fortune.
Thatch kinda gave the police carte blanche and the wrong 'uns didn't half enjoy themselves. Mate I have no doubt the Met did think themselves above the law. They were well protected by senior management and the government and as you say they literally were given carte blanche to do what they wanted under Thatchers Britain. I'ts important to remember though that not every Met officer during the miners strikes was a thug. On talking to the old man he said that the Met had a large contingent of northerners in it's ranks. Still does to this day. For these guys it was a very uncomfortable time. Fighting with communities that they had grown up in, that there families were involved in. My old man included. Born and raised in Glasgow but his father was a miner from Middlesbrough and he had family there. He said it was quite weird because your daily briefing was literally 'don't take any s**t from these northern w*****s, get stuck into them and look after eachother'. Back then and even now when you are on 'aid' somewhere you get a snack pack which contains a sandwich, apple, chocolate bar, bag of crisps and a bottle of water. My old man and others used to collect up all the unused food and water in a bin bag at the end of the day and take it to the back door of the local miners social club and give it to the barmaid so it could be given out to the local kids as times were literally that tough. They had to be careful not be seen or caught by the senior management doing this...... Then next day they would be kicking lumps out of eachother again!! Strange times.
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| dannyb1 Chichester 09 Apr 13 3.49pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 2.57pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 09 Apr 2013 2.40pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 09 Apr 2013 2.33pm
Quote since1953 at 09 Apr 2013 2.15pm
A quote from Mrs. T. "The problem with Capitalism is that you quickly run out of others peoples money"
For the life of me I don't see how Thatcher would have supported the banks in quite the same way. Hayek policy is to let a poor business fail. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2013 2.44pm) It was her and Reagan that helped bring in the dawn of deregulation and neo-liberalism, for that she is responsible (partly) for the mess we are in now. Many on this thread have said that selling off housing stock and not replacing it was a bad mistake-a shame then that Osborne (yay I spelled it right!) offered similar ideas in his recent budget. Do we not learn from mistakes? NO [Link]
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Apr 13 3.49pm |
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Quote The Sash at 09 Apr 2013 2.56pm
Is all this delight in the demise of an 87 year old woman with dementia proportionate or indeed seemly ?? Not too much class on display is there ? It'd bee a lot more vibrant if it had been a 50 year old woman. Quote The Sash at 09 Apr 2013 2.56pm
Whatever you thought of her as a PM or the mythical creature she has grown into she is hardly up there as historys greatest monster As for murdering c*** McGuiness... Well she did order the sinking of the Belgano, outside of the exclusion zone, killing several hundred people and possibly a war crime (throws cat out into the crowd of pidgeons).
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