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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Apr 21 10.47am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. Better for who? the pakistani rapists. The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect. You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 23 Apr 21 10.47am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done.

No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening.

If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that.

Better for who? the pakistani rapists.

The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect.

You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.53am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. They are now, but only after years of covering it up, You still havent answered why you are the only one to use the term p***..... Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.54am)
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The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.53am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done.

No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening.
If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that.

They are now, but only after years of covering it up, You still havent answered why you are the only one to use the term p***.....

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.54am)

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.57am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. But the ones so far prosecuted and threatened with deportation (although still walking the streets of Rochdale) were/are 99% of pakistani descent, why are you so afraid of saying so?? Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.57am) Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.58am)
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The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.57am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done.

No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening.

If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that.

But the ones so far prosecuted and threatened with deportation (although still walking the streets of Rochdale) were/are 99% of pakistani descent, why are you so afraid of saying so??

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.57am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.06am
Originally posted by Badger11 So it would be better to include Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Malay etc. etc. I'm not sure they would agree. Better only that it is very much less specific, but still unnecessary. Those you mention are pretty unlikely to feel upset, given the accusation history. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.06am

Originally posted by Badger11

So it would be better to include Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Malay etc. etc. I'm not sure they would agree.

Better only that it is very much less specific, but still unnecessary. Those you mention are pretty unlikely to feel upset, given the accusation history.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.10am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Better for who? the pakistani rapists. The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect. You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to. Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.10am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Better for who? the pakistani rapists.

The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect.

You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to.

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Apr 21 11.37am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern. And what are the outcomes? That pakistani men stop gang raping children, right? "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 23 Apr 21 11.37am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern.

And what are the outcomes?

That pakistani men stop gang raping children, right?

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 21 12.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern. Surely the main concern is that for years the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic rape of vulnerable young WHITE girls for the sake of racial harmony.
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Horsham 23 Apr 21 12.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern.

Surely the main concern is that for years the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic rape of vulnerable young WHITE girls for the sake of racial harmony.

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dannyboy1978 23 Apr 21 12.10pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you read the whole piece, in the context of her remarks, what she says has a great deal of truth and common sense in it. Racism has only been mentioned by you. I haven't accused anyone of racism. I have only suggested that not simply referring to criminals as criminals is unwise as it doesn't help solve the problem. If you feel victimised by being described as a racist then look elsewhere. I haven't done it. Your dancing on a pin head mate. If Tommy Robinson calls them pakistani you shout racist but you then go on to say " great deal of truth and common sense." Whist also calling them pakistani, When some else makes the same point. Your a hypocrite Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.19pm)
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23 Apr 21 12.10pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you read the whole piece, in the context of her remarks, what she says has a great deal of truth and common sense in it.

Racism has only been mentioned by you. I haven't accused anyone of racism. I have only suggested that not simply referring to criminals as criminals is unwise as it doesn't help solve the problem.

If you feel victimised by being described as a racist then look elsewhere. I haven't done it.

Your dancing on a pin head mate. If Tommy Robinson calls them pakistani you shout racist but you then go on to say "
great deal of truth and common sense." Whist also calling them pakistani, When some else makes the same point.

Your a hypocrite

Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.19pm)

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dannyboy1978 23 Apr 21 12.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Some of these men probably not. They need to be found and then dealt with in a way that removes any possibility of re-offending. That is a huge and very expensive challenge. Some can though, working through and with the leaders of their communities. More importantly it's the coming generations who need to be steered off that track. This isn't pakistan. There are many contrary influences here which need to be harnessed to change mindsets. Speak to a British educated younger Muslim and they are as horrified at the concept of honour killings as the rest of us. They are the future and it's their attitudes that need to be maximised. Ostracising whole communities isn't wise, which is the primary point I am trying to make. So we can have different communities but we cant say pakistani communities. Your a joke. Did you work as a civil servant by any chance? Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.20pm)
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23 Apr 21 12.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some of these men probably not. They need to be found and then dealt with in a way that removes any possibility of re-offending. That is a huge and very expensive challenge.

Some can though, working through and with the leaders of their communities. More importantly it's the coming generations who need to be steered off that track.

This isn't pakistan. There are many contrary influences here which need to be harnessed to change mindsets.

Speak to a British educated younger Muslim and they are as horrified at the concept of honour killings as the rest of us. They are the future and it's their attitudes that need to be maximised.

Ostracising whole communities isn't wise, which is the primary point I am trying to make.

So we can have different communities but we cant say pakistani communities.
Your a joke.
Did you work as a civil servant by any chance?

Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.20pm)

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Teddy Eagle 23 Apr 21 12.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well. [Link]
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23 Apr 21 12.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done.

No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening.

If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that.

Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well.

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 21 2.34pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well. [Link] Poorly written report, calling the gang members pakistani! Tut tut. I would imagine the Sikh community would be outraged if the gang were described as Asian descent
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Horsham 23 Apr 21 2.34pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well.

[Link]

Poorly written report, calling the gang members pakistani! Tut tut.
I would imagine the Sikh community would be outraged if the gang were described as Asian descent

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.21pm
Originally posted by the silurian They are now, but only after years of covering it up, You still havent answered why you are the only one to use the term p*..... Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.54am) The prosecutions have been happening for some time. Maybe under the radar at first, but they were there. Read what I wrote. I said that there were undertones of "**-bashing". Not that there is any. Just the aroma. The sense that it is still present in some minds. Maybe your nose isn't as sensitive as mine! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.21pm

Originally posted by the silurian

They are now, but only after years of covering it up, You still havent answered why you are the only one to use the term p***.....

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.54am)

The prosecutions have been happening for some time. Maybe under the radar at first, but they were there.

Read what I wrote. I said that there were undertones of "****-bashing". Not that there is any. Just the aroma. The sense that it is still present in some minds. Maybe your nose isn't as sensitive as mine!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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