You are entitled to your opinion but not to correct the words to what suits your narrative.

Let's see what the processes actually produce for Trump and the Bidens.

I am prepared to accept whatever the courts decide, are you?

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

I didn't correct your words! They stood above my comment which expressed my opinion on their accuracy.

I have frequently said that due process should proceed for both Trump, Biden and everyone else and that if Joe Biden is shown to have acted corruptly he deserves all he gets. So of course the courts will decide. They have access to all the facts, and not only to political spin.

I have also expressed an opinion that the probability of Trump being indicted seems much higher than Biden. That's an opinion. The first is the law. They are not the same.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (23 Nov 2022 3.26pm)

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I'm going to refrain from saying what I think of WE's position.

People can read WE's words and decide for their own conscience what is being done here and what is best for little children.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It has nothing whatsoever to do what is best for little children!

That’s what you would like to divert it to be, so you can avoid dealing with the real issue. Which is how the right are deliberately misusing language to cast aspersions on people they don’t like. LBGT people are no more likely to groom children for sex than anyone else. That’s the point!

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Also worth noting Teddy:

The word "groomer" is categorically an anti-LGBTQ hate word. It's super homophobic/transphobic. It plays into the slander that LGBTQ people are pedophiles. It's no different than calling someone a fagg*t.

If you call someone groomer, you're inciting violence against LGBTQ people

According to the Oxford English Dictionary:

Grooming - the action by a paedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offence.

And to the NSPCC:

Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.

So no 'grooming' or a 'groomer' is not 'categorically an anti-LGBTQ hate word'. Neither is it 'no different than calling someone a fagg*t'.

The act of 'grooming', within this context, refers to paedophiles attempting to sexually exploit children.

To try and then conflate that with so called 'hate crimes' and further block the usage of such language so as to protect paedophiles should remain, even above murder, at the very top of human indecency.

If LGBTQ people are being accused of 'grooming' with no supporting evidence, that is a separate matter altogether however that point is not made absolutely clear, even remotely so. You add that in with very much 'pro-paedophilia' legislation associated to the individual and the conclusion whilst not definite, is everything but.

You have to ask yourself what kind of person would then so vehemently look to argue this case and what their motives might be to conjure a smokescreen so as to obfuscate and derail what should be a one-sided stance... or at least you'd hope amongst the decent population.

The problem remains that where genuine and worthy causes may have started, such as the acceptance or even just stopping the abuse of homosexuals in society has now paved the way for hijacking by the likes of the hilariously named 'Wiener' and certain posters.

That is the left these days, which is not the left strictly speaking, it is the assortment of all societies weakest, pariahs and most sinister.

Edited by Nicholas91 (23 Nov 2022 5.57pm)

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

If anyone wishes to criticise him for that, it's perfectly reasonable, but they should make it quite plain and perhaps start a new thread.

The tweet he wrote, and was quoted here, had absolutely no connection with it and is only about the way the right are misusing language in a deliberate attempt to slur people.

That is what needs to be addressed and not avoided by diverting onto unconnected issues.

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