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 Mapletree  Croydon 03 Jul 16 9.00pm |
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So which do you trust. 'It has been estimated' in the Independent with no further data in an 'opinion piece'. Or analysis specifically performed for the LSE by Opinium? You are usually so good at reading around the topic, why not in this case?
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SloveniaDave  Tirana, Albania 03 Jul 16 9.10pm |
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As the days go by, I am getting a bit more optimistic that we will be able to salvage the situation, re-negotiate a better deal and remain. Even most of the Tories are starting to panic, quite rightly, about the implications of triggering Clause 50. Hopefully they wont be daft enough to have another referendum this time though.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive) |
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| turkish eagle 03 Jul 16 9.52pm |
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Jeremy Hunt suggested a second referendum when the terms of exit are thrashed out, just in case anyone thinks it might be better remaining. Although he didn't run for leader in the end, it might be an idea that gains support if the terms seem unfavourable.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 16 10.43pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
So which do you trust. 'It has been estimated' in the Independent with no further data in an 'opinion piece'. Or analysis specifically performed for the LSE by Opinium? You are usually so good at reading around the topic, why not in this case? All I am doing is reporting the information in the 'Independent' which is at variance with the data reported elsewhere in this thread. In actual fact, the other day on TV I heard someone say that only 40% of 18-24 voted in the referendum.Certainly differences !
What was voter turnout across age groups? Update: 26/6: Social media is passing round a stat that only 36 per cent of 18-24 year olds voted. Edited by Willo (03 Jul 2016 10.49pm)
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jul 16 12.14am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Let's try again shall we. 16 and 17 year olds are bitter at being disenfranchised. On such an important issue for the longer term they wanted a say. As that was given to 16 and 17 year olds in the Scottish referendum there is precedent. Did you really think that I believed they had a legal right to vote but were prevented? I think it is you that needs to keep up. In order to be disenfranchised, you have to have been enfranchised in the first place. The voting age is 18. 16 & 17 year olds have never been able to vote in a UK-wide poll. Edited by Cucking Funt (04 Jul 2016 12.19am)
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NickinOX  Sailing country. 04 Jul 16 1.55am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
In order to be disenfranchised, you have to have been enfranchised in the first place. The voting age is 18. 16 & 17 year olds have never been able to vote in a UK-wide poll. Edited by Cucking Funt (04 Jul 2016 12.19am) How dare you let facts get in the way of a good rant.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 04 Jul 16 8.55am |
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Originally posted by turkish eagle
Jeremy Hunt suggested a second referendum when the terms of exit are thrashed out, just in case anyone thinks it might be better remaining. Although he didn't run for leader in the end, it might be an idea that gains support if the terms seem unfavourable. A very very sad loser!
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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Kermit8  Hevon 04 Jul 16 8.56am |
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One of the banners on the protest march:
her viabilty as a solo artist and left The Spice Girls" Edited by Kermit8 (04 Jul 2016 8.57am)
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 16 9.04am |
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Originally posted by Willo
All I am doing is reporting the information in the 'Independent' which is at variance with the data reported elsewhere in this thread. In actual fact, the other day on TV I heard someone say that only 40% of 18-24 voted in the referendum.Certainly differences !
What was voter turnout across age groups? Update: 26/6: Social media is passing round a stat that only 36 per cent of 18-24 year olds voted. Edited by Willo (03 Jul 2016 10.49pm) Fascinating. So an unattributed comment gets credence throughout the Press a week ago and nobody checks the facts. Then a factual piece comes out and, because it wasn't the first comment on the issue, it is written off. Despite being the only proper investigation of the issue. You have to ask why the original 'estimate' was ever given the status of 'fact'. In whose interests was that? Then you have to ask why actual analysis continues to be ignored because of an earlier opinion. This is not aimed at you Willo, it is an observation about the media. As AshTree keeps telling me, the media hates young people. I would love to see some analysis that either proves or disproves that hypothesis. But I would like to know why you even bother repeating a stat that is 'passing around social media'. As ever on this site I want to see the original source and comments before I believe anything.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jul 16 9.36am |
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Originally posted by shaun57
One was to stay part of the United Kingdom (knowing we had a referendum about the EU) the other was to leave a corrupt federal state. No bias with you then
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 16 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
In order to be disenfranchised, you have to have been enfranchised in the first place. The voting age is 18. 16 & 17 year olds have never been able to vote in a UK-wide poll. Edited by Cucking Funt (04 Jul 2016 12.19am) I don't think you read your own link properly Cucking Just to be clear here is another definition that I took from a randomly selected site (Cambridge Online Dictionaries) ''not having the right to vote, or a similar right, or having had that right taken away:''
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 16 9.54am |
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Originally posted by NickinOX
How dare you let facts get in the way of a good rant. As usual, the 'facts' are subject to interpretation. And if I want to rant I shall DAMN WELL RANT. 'Tis a free site and I claim my right to have a hissy fit on it.
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