There is a difference between pushing to act on the fact that there is an issue than is seen to occur within a certain community, and reveling in it. Should no stone should be left unturned in locking people up regardless of perceived cultural sensitivities or any such guff? Yes. Has it always been the case that people are held to account? No. Was it when this depravity was found in the church? No. In children's homes? No. In football clubs? No. It was all hushed up.

It's as much the nature of the crime at hand that means it's not always a formality to chase it out of whatever hide hole this depravity is in. Of course it's abhorrent when anyone tries to hush this stuff up. It's equally abhorrent when people are perpetually licking their lips at the fact that they get to combine a group of people they're clearly not keen on, with pedos, when very obviously the vast, vast majority in any racial or religious group are not part of such depravity.

Some, in words and actions, clearly couldn't care less about these issues before it ticked the right boxes.

This is Tommy's 'business', his pay cheque. And let's not forget the several instances of abuse he neglects to comment on amongst those he's aligned with when they're the ones involved in it. If you look at the stuff with this Syrian kid you can tell the guy's all about publicity come what may. The day he lunged out of his (moving) car to confront a group of men leaving his kids sat in said car, terrified and crying, I knew full well he didn't give a sh!t about kids. His own or other peoples.

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I don’t very often agree with Yasmin Alibhai-Brown but she’s right on much of this

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You would be French if you had applied for citizenship!

Cornwall doesn't have a national status. Yet. If it ever did I might well apply, if only out of the shame I feel for some of the disgraceful attitudes found in places like this these days.

You would be French if you had applied for citizenship!

Cornwall doesn't have a national status. Yet. If it ever did I might well apply, if only out of the shame I feel for some of the disgracefuattitudes found in places like this these days.

No, you are the one denying reality.

No-one denies there is a problem. However, there is a right way to deal with it, which stands a chance of succeeding and a wrong way which is not only just hot air and p*ssing in the wind but will make things worse.

We are where we are with immigration and no amount of wishful thinking or staking out the moral high ground will turn the clock back so we can adopt a different management strategy. We need to deal with what is, and not what isn't.

All I ever hear from people like Yaxley-Lennon, and indeed you and other posters here, are statements of the obvious embellished with emotional calls for more to be done. What I don't hear are any practical, legal steps that could be taken that would improve things more swiftly than the very challenging investigative work being quietly done by an under resourced Police force.

As I said before it's not a crime to be a pakistani so everyone needs to stop describing these men that way. They are criminals. They need to be seen as criminals by everyone, including those in the communities they come from. Tarnish those communities and they will feel more inclined to hide any of their number who are accused.

So stress the criminality and forget everything else. And then argue for greater resources and partnerships with good folk who will be as disgusted as everybody else. Make communities ashamed to know there are criminals in their midst.

That work is being done at local level who despise the attempts made by Yaxley-Lennon to stir things up.

You’re right about this Spiderman. I spent some time in pakistan in the 80’s. Admittedly the world was a different place 40 years ago but the people there were nothing but warm, friendly and kind. Many would go out of their way to help you in any way they could. I also spent some time in Iran and found the same there even though they lived under a very repressive regime.