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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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 Matov 29 Jul 22 8.12am |
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| W12 29 Jul 22 8.48am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Entirely obvious this was going to happen. The west effectively put sanctions on itself.
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| W12 29 Jul 22 9.01am | |
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| Matov 29 Jul 22 9.49am |
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Originally posted by W12
Entirely obvious this was going to happen. The west effectively put sanctions on itself. And to what end? This is the part I genuinely struggle with. It makes me smile when people moan about Russia 'weaponising' the supply of gas when it has had all kinds of sanctions imposed on it. What is it meant to do? Just keep on doing what the West wants? These sanctions are the equivalent of deciding to poison somebody then swallowing the pills yourself. Meaning our leaders are either moronic beyond compare...or else have deliberately sought to weaken us. There is no middle ground on this because you don't need much a of a crystal ball to realise what the impact would have been.
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 georgenorman 29 Jul 22 11.09am |
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Not looked at HOL for a while. I see that the pro-Putin BS is still at full throttle.
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| W12 29 Jul 22 11.57am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Not looked at HOL for a while. I see that the pro-Putin BS is still at full throttle. Except you won't be able to explain why it's BS
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| deleted 25 29 Jul 22 12.05pm |
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This imo explains it but will be difficult for some on here to swallow, and who keep banging the same drum because they think they know it all
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| Matov 29 Jul 22 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by Vincehair
This imo explains it but will be difficult for some on here to swallow, and who keep banging the same drum because they think they know it all
This idea that Putin is under threat in Russia is beyond laughable. It is the same rubbish that underpins the disastrous sanctions narrative. Still I guess it is not us having to have cold showers yet, unlike our German friends. And we ain't even in autumn yet, let alone winter.
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| deleted 25 29 Jul 22 1.00pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
This idea that Putin is under threat in Russia is beyond laughable. It is the same rubbish that underpins the disastrous sanctions narrative. Still I guess it is not us having to have cold showers yet, unlike our German friends. And we ain't even in autumn yet, let alone winter. It’s not a democracy in Russia and any opposition is taken out
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| Matov 29 Jul 22 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Vincehair
It’s not a democracy in Russia and any opposition is taken out
Or the West stopping us watch RT? Or listen to any voices who oppose the Ukraine Good/Russia Bad mantra? No. You don't get to play that card. Berating Russia for acting as it has in launching the invasion, that I get but the West do not get to act like they are somehow on the side of democracy in Ukraine.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Jul 22 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Or the West stopping us watch RT? Or listen to any voices who oppose the Ukraine Good/Russia Bad mantra? No. You don't get to play that card. Berating Russia for acting as it has in launching the invasion, that I get but the West do not get to act like they are somehow on the side of democracy in Ukraine. Just think, Thatcher could have lasted forever if she could have imprisoned or assassinated the opposition. She did ask but MI5 said no.
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