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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 03 Jul 19 2.19am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
You do half talk some Carabao s*** That you, and so many others it seems, do not actually understand how British democracy works, is not my fault.
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| dannyboy1978 03 Jul 19 6.58am |
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Wrong thread. Edited by dannyboy1978 (03 Jul 2019 6.58am)
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Teddy Eagle  03 Jul 19 7.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Ultimately yes, all of them. If some are delegated then that delegation is capable of withdrawal. Parliament is sovereign. Don’t think they see it that way in Scotland and Wales.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jul 19 8.59am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Don’t think they see it that way in Scotland and Wales. Probably not, but whilst they remain part of the UK the Westminster parliament is sovereign, although I freely acknowledge it would create a huge crisis if it decided to overturn the delegated powers.
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| .TUX. 03 Jul 19 9.27am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That you, and so many others it seems, do not actually understand how British demockracy works, is not my fault. EFA.
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| W12 03 Jul 19 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Probably not, but whilst they remain part of the UK the Westminster parliament is sovereign, although I freely acknowledge it would create a huge crisis if it decided to overturn the delegated powers. It all comes back to the same point that you simply cannot accept that you might be wrong on whether Brexit will be a good overall outcome for the UK as a whole. I'm sure though that you know that the short term outcome will be positive for you personally - and you are probably right on that count.
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| W12 03 Jul 19 11.49am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That you, and so many others it seems, do not actually understand how British democracy works, is not my fault. As things stand it doesn't work or more accurately works however the elite want it to, which is the problem. A great example being the way Bercow has been able to single/highhandedly select and de-select the Brexit votes in the direction of his own clear bias. Another being how parliament have continuously ceded sovereignty via the smallprint to the EU without the general public being aware. They are simply making it up as they go along. We need major changes to the modern parliamentary system and a written constitution as our system is no longer fit for purpose. That includes variations of the US first (free speech) and second amendments (gun rights). People will see the second as extreme but not when/if we reach the point of a civil war or a major civil unrest and It's not far away.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jul 19 12.09pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Duplicate removed. My apologies but my internet connection is very poor here and frequently drops out. This seems to result in double posts appearing. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (03 Jul 2019 12.44pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jul 19 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by W12
It all comes back to the same point that you simply cannot accept that you might be wrong on whether Brexit will be a good overall outcome for the UK as a whole. I'm sure though that you know that the short term outcome will be positive for you personally - and you are probably right on that count. No it doesn't! Whether or not Parliament is sovereign has nothing to do with my, or any other opinion, on Brexit. I believe that the short, and long term outcome for me, and everyone else, will be entirely negative by the way. So you are wrong in every way.
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| W12 03 Jul 19 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it doesn't! Whether or not Parliament is sovereign has nothing to do with my, or any other opinion, on Brexit. I believe that the short, and long term outcome for me, and everyone else, will be entirely negative by the way. So you are wrong in every way. I'm talking about the short term outcome of remaining - I should have made that clear
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jul 19 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by W12
As things stand it doesn't work or more accurately works however the elite want it to, which is the problem. A great example being the way Bercow has been able to single/highhandedly select and de-select the Brexit votes in the direction of his own clear bias. Another being how parliament have continuously ceded sovereignty via the smallprint to the EU without the general public being aware. They are simply making it up as they go along. We need major changes to the modern parliamentary system and a written constitution as our system is no longer fit for purpose. That includes variations of the US first (free speech) and second amendments (gun rights). People will see the second as extreme but not when/if we reach the point of a civil war or a major civil unrest and It's not far away. Ah, the "it's all the fault of the elite" excuse again! Both the right and the left place the blame on this mythical elite. As no-one has more than one vote it's just garbage. If you want to see changes to our political system then the solution is entirely in your own hands. Convince enough others to elect a Parliament who agree with you and it will be done. Until then we have what we have. Bitching about it won't change anything. Threatening direct action is not acceptable in any democracy as that presupposes that your opinion is better than any other. We change things via our votes.
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| Teddy Eagle 03 Jul 19 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Ah, the "it's all the fault of the elite" excuse again! Both the right and the left place the blame on this mythical elite. As no-one has more than one vote it's just garbage. If you want to see changes to our political system then the solution is entirely in your own hands. Convince enough others to elect a Parliament who agree with you and it will be done. Until then we have what we have. Bitching about it won't change anything. Threatening direct action is not acceptable in any democracy as that presupposes that your opinion is better than any other. We change things via our votes. Won’t work though will it? Any politician can agree with any policy then laugh in your face when they’re elected and say their opinion has changed. No wonder they lie so much when they’re so unaccountable.
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