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 cryrst  The garden of England 01 Jul 19 9.37am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
To continue the analogy Hilary actually won the game. Only the local rules which allow those who come second to still win meant we ended with Trump. Alongside that there were the Russians opening the doors and allowing the wind to disrupt Hilary's aim whilst she was being bombarded with lies and distractions. Not so this time. People have wised up, the social media companies are alert to interference and Google is making sure fake news gets downgraded by it's search engine. Lightening won't be striking twice. We now have some real experience of a Trump presidency to base opinions on. Some clearly will continue to be sold snake oil, but not enough. He will fight because he knows he will be indicted just as soon as he is a private citizen again and will likely spend his last days in jail. He will only get indicted because the dems want revenge for hilary.
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steeleye20  Croydon 01 Jul 19 9.45am |
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Really can't they indict him on some tax evasion charge like Capone, certainly put paid to him. When his presidency is up he will probably ignore it and continue anyway, like May and Merkel. If they do arrest him it would only be a trumped-up charge......
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| W12 01 Jul 19 10.09am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
To continue the analogy Hilary actually won the game. Only the local rules which allow those who come second to still win meant we ended with Trump. Alongside that there were the Russians opening the doors and allowing the wind to disrupt Hilary's aim whilst she was being bombarded with lies and distractions. Not so this time. People have wised up, the social media companies are alert to interference and Google is making sure fake news gets downgraded by it's search engine. Lightening won't be striking twice. We now have some real experience of a Trump presidency to base opinions on. Some clearly will continue to be sold snake oil, but not enough. He will fight because he knows he will be indicted just as soon as he is a private citizen again and will likely spend his last days in jail. Lets let giant multinational corporations decide who gets to speak and what they are allowed to say, What could possibly go wrong? What happens when those same corporations don't like what *you* have to say? Amazon already want to control currency. Do you know nothing about the Clintons and the Clinton foundation? Who funds them like the Saudis etc? By the way, what is this fake news you speak of? I'm seeing plenty of it but it seems to being going mainly in one direction and certainly not in Trumps favour. He has been getting 90% negative press but achieving a 50%+ approval rating so how is he benefiting from fake news? I think you may be helping spread the fake news yourself. Just like Brexit the issue is that a large minority of people in the US and the UK are simply unwilling to accept the result of a democratic vote because they see themselves as morally superior.
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| cryrst The garden of England 01 Jul 19 10.10am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Really can't they indict him on some tax evasion charge like Capone, certainly put paid to him. When his presidency is up he will probably ignore it and continue anyway, like May and Merkel. If they do arrest him it would only be a trumped-up charge......
Get our coat steely
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| cryrst The garden of England 01 Jul 19 10.11am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Get our coat steely Your coat. Bloody fingers
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 19 10.20am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
He will only get indicted because the dems want revenge for hilary. He will get indicted for the crimes he has committed, just as any other criminal would be. Due process will ensure that any other motivation, even if it existed which I do not believe it does, will not matter. That the only reason he doesn't face charges now is because as a sitting President his sycophantic AJ has decided he cannot be. Yet! Impeachment is the process to try Trump until 2020 and that's a waste of time with the Senate as it is. Unless Trump does something so stupid even they cannot ignore it.
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Teddy Eagle  01 Jul 19 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He will get indicted for the crimes he has committed, just as any other criminal would be. Due process will ensure that any other motivation, even if it existed which I do not believe it does, will not matter. That the only reason he doesn't face charges now is because as a sitting President his sycophantic AJ has decided he cannot be. Yet! Impeachment is the process to try Trump until 2020 and that's a waste of time with the Senate as it is. Unless Trump does something so stupid even they cannot ignore it. Like winning the Nobel Peace prize?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 19 11.00am |
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Originally posted by W12
Lets let giant multinational corporations decide who gets to speak and what they are allowed to say, What could possibly go wrong? What happens when those same corporations don't like what *you* have to say? Amazon already want to control currency. Do you know nothing about the Clintons and the Clinton foundation? Who funds them like the Saudis etc? By the way, what is this fake news you speak of? I'm seeing plenty of it but it seems to being going mainly in one direction and certainly not in Trumps favour. He has been getting 90% negative press but achieving a 50%+ approval rating so how is he benefiting from fake news? I think you may be helping spread the fake news yourself. Just like Brexit the issue is that a large minority of people in the US and the UK are simply unwilling to accept the result of a democratic vote because they see themselves as morally superior. Thanks for the laugh! You have been watching far too much Fox "News", which is the epitome of fake reporting. Nothing you suggest is true. Congress decide what regulations govern how social media companies monitor content and it's them that have required tighter oversight to avoid the problems we have seen. FB in particular have been under the spotlight. There is nothing political involved by the companies themselves. It just seems that the majority of the recent manipulation has come from the right, and from Russia supporting the right in order to sow dissention. It is therefore entirely correct to try to ensure that the deliberate planting of false stories be curtailed. The Clinton Foundation has been investigated many times and given a clean bill, yet still the mud gets thrown. There is some of your fake news from the right, alongside things like Obama's birth certificate and his wife's gender. Trump's approval rating, measured as a weighted average of all the major polls has been around 44% for about the last year. Only one poll has ever approached 50% but of course that's the only one Trump ever uses, plus those he invents. People are more than willing to accept democratic votes. What they won't accept is outside interference in the process or having a criminal in the WH. In the UK we had a referendum which is not part of our democracy and have been arguing ever since about what it actually means.That doesn't mean we don't accept democratic decisions. It just means we don't agree what they are. No moral superiority involved. Just different opinions.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 19 11.01am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Like winning the Nobel Peace prize?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Jul 19 11.12am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Like winning the Nobel Peace prize? That made me smile! Now I realise the peace prize is sometimes given to odd recipients in order to encourage a process but the Norwegians aren't stupid. I know Trump would love it, and doubtless believes he deserves it, but I cannot see them risking the potential devaluation of the honour that such a decision would bring. To say it would be controversial is an understatement.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 19 11.15am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That made me smile! Now I realise the peace prize is sometimes given to odd recipients in order to encourage a process but the Norwegians aren't stupid. I know Trump would love it, and doubtless believes he deserves it, but I cannot see them risking the potential devaluation of the honour that such a decision would bring. To say it would be controversial is an understatement.
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| W12 01 Jul 19 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Thanks for the laugh! You have been watching far too much Fox "News", which is the epitome of fake reporting. Nothing you suggest is true. Congress decide what regulations govern how social media companies monitor content and it's them that have required tighter oversight to avoid the problems we have seen. FB in particular have been under the spotlight. There is nothing political involved by the companies themselves. It just seems that the majority of the recent manipulation has come from the right, and from Russia supporting the right in order to sow dissention. It is therefore entirely correct to try to ensure that the deliberate planting of false stories be curtailed. The Clinton Foundation has been investigated many times and given a clean bill, yet still the mud gets thrown. There is some of your fake news from the right, alongside things like Obama's birth certificate and his wife's gender. Trump's approval rating, measured as a weighted average of all the major polls has been around 44% for about the last year. Only one poll has ever approached 50% but of course that's the only one Trump ever uses, plus those he invents. People are more than willing to accept democratic votes. What they won't accept is outside interference in the process or having a criminal in the WH. In the UK we had a referendum which is not part of our democracy and have been arguing ever since about what it actually means.That doesn't mean we don't accept democratic decisions. It just means we don't agree what they are. No moral superiority involved. Just different opinions. You are so far off the mark I don't think it's worth trying to pick apart your opinions with facts. I'm increasingly of the view that as with people such as David Lammy it's wasted effort trying to engage. Insanity and delusion seems to be mainstream so I can't really blame you for this.
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