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Eltham Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 10.14am Send a Private Message to Eltham Eagle Add Eltham Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration.

I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal".

So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver.

Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am)

I haven't blamed anyone. I have asked a genuine question and I believe that the time this is taking is detrimental for season preparation.

But of course, you be free to blame me for having an opinion that may differ to yours (gasp!).

Oh yes, and great that you seem to know that the "pool" was never under consideration. You part of the recruitment process? Enlighten us please and put this thread out of its misery.

 


Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 19 Jun 17 10.15am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Didn't this happen with Tim Sherwood a few years ago?


As I recall, Sherwood assumed that, as he was being called for interview, he was the chosen target and that he'd either be told you've got the job or you haven't (the head hunter style, if you like, which I suspect is what they're used to). When he was told thanks for coming, we've got other candidates to see, you'll be told the outcome in due course (as if we were interviewing for the next Office Manager) he told us to stick the job up our arse.

Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course.

We either do what Watford did and choose a target, go for it, and if all the ducks line up, make an appointment. Or we do what we're doing, which is painstakingly trawl though a sizeable short-list, carry out numerous interviews, keep candidates waiting whilst we ruminate and accept that, in the meantime, some of the targets will go elsewhere or blow us out.


Edited by bexleydave (19 Jun 2017 10.16am)

 


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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 19 Jun 17 10.18am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


As I recall, Sherwood assumed that, as he was being called for interview, he was the chosen target and that he'd either be told you've got the job or you haven't (the head hunter style, if you like, which I suspect is what they're used to). When he was told thanks for coming, we've got other candidates to see, you'll be told the outcome in due course (as if we were interviewing for the next Office Manager) he told us to stick the job up our arse.

Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course.

We either do what Watford did and choose a target, go for it, and if all the ducks line up, make an appointment. Or we do what we're doing, which is painstakingly trawl though a sizeable short-list, carry out numerous interviews, keep candidates waiting whilst we ruminate and accept that, in the meantime, some of the targets will go elsewhere or blow us out.


Edited by bexleydave (19 Jun 2017 10.16am)

Absolutely spot on!

 


Bring back Brolin

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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 19 Jun 17 10.19am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration.

I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal".

So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver.

Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am)

Who is in charge of the selection process?

 


Bring back Brolin

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 10.20am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Eltham Eagle

I haven't blamed anyone. I have asked a genuine question and I believe that the time this is taking is detrimental for season preparation.

But of course, you be free to blame me for having an opinion that may differ to yours (gasp!).

Oh yes, and great that you seem to know that the "pool" was never under consideration. You part of the recruitment process? Enlighten us please and put this thread out of its misery.

I was merely asking you to take this into consideration whereas you were using words like "Fact".

No I am not part of the "Recruitment process" nor do I get a running commentary on a daily basis about how matters are progressing.

It seems that Parish is being criticised for a protracted process - all I am saying is that these matters can take time and various factors come into play which affect the timescale.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 10.26am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


As I recall, Sherwood assumed that, as he was being called for interview, he was the chosen target and that he'd either be told you've got the job or you haven't (the head hunter style, if you like, which I suspect is what they're used to). When he was told thanks for coming, we've got other candidates to see, you'll be told the outcome in due course (as if we were interviewing for the next Office Manager) he told us to stick the job up our arse.

Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course.

We do get odd stories leaking into the media from time to time about the way we conduct our business like Dan Gosling being annoyed as he was left hanging around in a hotel room for 24 hours after a medical with no word whatsoever from the club and the fellow who was annoyed at being asked to pay for his own lunch and even that the team were thinking about going on strike as SP didn't want to pay them their bonuses

 

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rawpalace05 Flag Saltdean 19 Jun 17 10.38am Send a Private Message to rawpalace05 Add rawpalace05 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


Six weeks would take us to when all other PL clubs would have started their pre-season and would be just 10 days before we need to be in HK to take part in the pre-tournament publicity. That does not sound like ideal preparation for next season to me.

6 weeks from the start of the season, i.e. July. Read my post again. Regardless, pre season will start whoever is in charge (Keith Millen bridging gaps has never hurt us previously, I'm sure Sammy Lee could do the same IF necessary). Re being in HK with a new face in charge, you mention publicity yet isn't it Parish who's turned us from that dirty little rough diamond of an un fashionable club into a quirky multi cultural and local community representing underdog? He's the marketing man, we should trust him that he knows what he's doing.

 


1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

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rawpalace05 Flag Saltdean 19 Jun 17 10.42am Send a Private Message to rawpalace05 Add rawpalace05 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've deleted the more stupid parts from your post leaving the only sensible part to comment on.

There seems to be an idea amongst many that the longer SP takes over finding a new manager the more likely it is that he will land the right one but if one thinks about it logically that isn't necessarily the case and he is just as likely to end up with the wrong one as if he made his mind up quickly

Stupid parts? You mean deeply satirical slandering of some of the masses on here? So you think making a quicker decision wouldn't come with more risk? Don't ever run a complex business!

 


1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 19 Jun 17 10.49am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by rawpalace05

6 weeks from the start of the season, i.e. July. Read my post again. Regardless, pre season will start whoever is in charge (Keith Millen bridging gaps has never hurt us previously, I'm sure Sammy Lee could do the same IF necessary). Re being in HK with a new face in charge, you mention publicity yet isn't it Parish who's turned us from that dirty little rough diamond of an un fashionable club into a quirky multi cultural and local community representing underdog? He's the marketing man, we should trust him that he knows what he's doing.

I find your posts somewhat difficult to make sense of. Pre-season begins in the first week of July, which is where a six week recruitment process will take us. As for the competition in HK, I'm sure that it's a fine an admirable thing, but if we were to fail to make an appointment until early July, we'd have very little preparation time together with all the other things we need to do, including getting on with our transfer business (other clubs have started already).

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 11.07am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by rawpalace05

Stupid parts? You mean deeply satirical slandering of some of the masses on here? So you think making a quicker decision wouldn't come with more risk? Don't ever run a complex business!

Oddly enough I have run businesses far more complex than a football club which believe it or not is comparatively simple compared to most businesses.

Don't confuse the large amounts of money involved with complexity

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jun 17 11.13am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

I find your posts somewhat difficult to make sense of. Pre-season begins in the first week of July, which is where a six week recruitment process will take us. As for the competition in HK, I'm sure that it's a fine an admirable thing, but if we were to fail to make an appointment until early July, we'd have very little preparation time together with all the other things we need to do, including getting on with our transfer business (other clubs have started already).

We had this same sh1t last summer.

Once Benteke signed the transfer window was rated a big success. Any of us who had wanted us to get a move on and rated the window a 7/10 at best because we were obviously a couple of players short were in the wrong. Then a couple of months in we were not.

Get a dof in and cut some of this fecking about which could one day be the start of our downfall.

 


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chateauferret Flag 19 Jun 17 11.23am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Oddly enough I have run businesses far more complex than a football club which believe it or not is comparatively simple compared to most businesses.

Don't confuse the large amounts of money involved with complexity

When the time came for all good men to come to the aid of the party Parish put his neck on the block. You didn't.

I'm pretty sick of hearing people reckoning they could run the club better than Parish can because frankly none of you would last five minutes. It's fine to say he might have done this and not that, even to criticise, because nobody is perfect; but slagging him and claiming that you know more about it than him is just bollocks and if you think running a PL football club in the present environment is easy then you are deluding yourself enormously.


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