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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Jun 17 7.43am

Originally posted by serial thriller

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129 economists endorse Labour's manifesto.

This is literally what I mean by smoke and mirrors in political discussion. Fearmongering with absolutely no interest in the facts of the matter. It is, basically, the lying which the poster I quoted expressed irritation about, and I really really hope ordinary people see through it.

We never saw that sort of thing in the Remain's campaign did we.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 17 8.06am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I needed police escorts on a couple of occasions when I was doing home visits when I was a nursery teacher in Woolwich. Nothing to do with Muslims though.

The whataboutery king.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Jun 17 8.28am

Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 for protesting the trial of a group of IRA members, including the Brighton Bomber Patrick Magee. Magee was convicted of murdering five people and the group were convicted of planning a "massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts." After refusing police requests to move from outside the court, Corbyn and the other protesters were arrested for obstruction and held for five hours before being released on bail, but were not charged. In the early 1990s, MI5 opened a file on Corbyn over fears his IRA links meant he could have been a threat to national security.The Metropolitan Police's Special Branch was also monitoring Corbyn at the time. According to Andrew Gilligan in The Sunday Times, following research in Irish and Republican archives, Corbyn was involved in over 72 events connected with Sinn Fein, or other pro-republican groups, during the period of the IRA's paramilitary campaign.
Corbyn supported the campaign to overturn the convictions of Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami for the 1994 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London; Botmeh and Alami had admitted possessing explosives and guns but denied they were for use in Britain. The convictions were upheld by the High Court of Justice in 2001 and by the European Court of Human Rights in 2007.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 17 8.36am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 for protesting the trial of a group of IRA members, including the Brighton Bomber Patrick Magee. Magee was convicted of murdering five people and the group were convicted of planning a "massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts." After refusing police requests to move from outside the court, Corbyn and the other protesters were arrested for obstruction and held for five hours before being released on bail, but were not charged. In the early 1990s, MI5 opened a file on Corbyn over fears his IRA links meant he could have been a threat to national security.The Metropolitan Police's Special Branch was also monitoring Corbyn at the time. According to Andrew Gilligan in The Sunday Times, following research in Irish and Republican archives, Corbyn was involved in over 72 events connected with Sinn Fein, or other pro-republican groups, during the period of the IRA's paramilitary campaign.
Corbyn supported the campaign to overturn the convictions of Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami for the 1994 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London; Botmeh and Alami had admitted possessing explosives and guns but denied they were for use in Britain. The convictions were upheld by the High Court of Justice in 2001 and by the European Court of Human Rights in 2007.

The public need to know what sort of man is running for PM. It's a disgrace.

 

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 06 Jun 17 9.20am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

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129 economists endorse Labour's manifesto.

This is literally what I mean by smoke and mirrors in political discussion. Fearmongering with absolutely no interest in the facts of the matter. It is, basically, the lying which the poster I quoted expressed irritation about, and I really really hope ordinary people see through it.

Why let facts or expert opinion cloud our judgement? Down with facts and down with experts I say. Bloody know-it-alls.

 

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Hansy Flag 06 Jun 17 9.31am Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Why let facts or expert opinion cloud our judgement? Down with facts and down with experts I say. Bloody know-it-alls.

Yet the IFS has said the tax hikes won't raise nearly enough to cover the manifesto.

'Lets rip the Tories on their increased debt, whilst we are willing to increase the debt and deficit ourselves'

Edited by Hansy (06 Jun 2017 9.33am)

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Jun 17 9.32am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The public need to know what sort of man is running for PM. It's a disgrace.

Agreed. I mean the man has met very unpleasant individuals here and abroad in his time and not once has he sold them arms.

No way should he be in office.

 


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Hansy Flag 06 Jun 17 9.34am Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Agreed. I mean the man has met very unpleasant individuals here and abroad in his time and not once has he sold them arms.

No way should he be in office.

Because he's not been able to. Not like Labour was selling arms to Libya and Saudi Arabia, in their last government...

Edited by Hansy (06 Jun 2017 9.39am)

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Jun 17 9.53am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hansy

Because he's not been able to. Not like Labour was selling arms to Libya and Saudi Arabia, in their last government...

Edited by Hansy (06 Jun 2017 9.39am)

Exactly. What's more obnoxious? Being arrested at a protest 30 years ago outside the Old Bailey for supporting an independent Ireland and 'Troops Out' or our government selling billions of pound worth of arms last year to an overseas regime that actively finances a religious movement that propagates the terrorism that occurs here and seeks the downfall of the British state?

Vote Tory and you are 100% enabling them to sell arms to them again and for Saudi to set up more Wahhabist inspired mosques here. Vote Tory and help extreme Islam at the same time. That's the nub of it. They will never ever do anything to offend Saudi Arabia. They will put them ahead of their own citizens.

Edited by Kermit8 (06 Jun 2017 9.58am)

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 06 Jun 17 10.08am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hansy

Yet the IFS has said the tax hikes won't raise nearly enough to cover the manifesto.

'Lets rip the Tories on their increased debt, whilst we are willing to increase the debt and deficit ourselves'

Edited by Hansy (06 Jun 2017 9.33am)


IFS actually predict that Labour's plans will result in a current budget surplus so only debt to invest, which at current rates is what we should be doing.


Saying that, the IFS are wedded to an outdated free market ideology and consistently favour tax policy that favours the (already) rich. Their thinking is outdated on economics. They think people are a lot more mobile than they are and think too much of people as mere factors of production with clear money-only incentives.

 

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gambler Flag Kent 06 Jun 17 10.20am Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Car crash TV of the most buttock-clenching kind. Vote Labour and get this f*cking oaf as Home Secretary.

Edited by Cucking Funt (05 Jun 2017 9.41pm)

His final question should have been "What have you been taking?".

And if Labour get in, no she won't be Home Secretary. No way. She's finished after this election.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Jun 17 10.30am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Exactly. What's more obnoxious? Being arrested at a protest 30 years ago outside the Old Bailey for supporting an independent Ireland and 'Troops Out' or our government selling billions of pound worth of arms last year to an overseas regime that actively finances a religious movement that propagates the terrorism that occurs here and seeks the downfall of the British state?

Vote Tory and you are 100% enabling them to sell arms to them again and for Saudi to set up more Wahhabist inspired mosques here. Vote Tory and help extreme Islam at the same time. That's the nub of it. They will never ever do anything to offend Saudi Arabia. They will put them ahead of their own citizens.

Edited by Kermit8 (06 Jun 2017 9.58am)

Being a supporter of terrorists that bomb Britain.

 


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