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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 22 5.48pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No, I won't watch the video, as I'm pretty sure you didn't watch Watson's video and are of the position that no one should be allowed to.

However, I did read the article.

What I will say is, if the recording is genuine, and this kind of thing can be faked, then I don't agree with the sentiments. Also, if this was genuine it's been covertly obtained and comes under the guise of private commentary. However, it really would need evidence that it hasn't been faked.

I agree with Watson on most topics, however I don't believe in violent actions against groups. Ask him if he does.

My attitude here is, while I don't agree with it, people talk nonsense all the time. I imagine there's a lot of things said in private that none of us would stand by at a later date.

However, you are a person who agreed with throwing statues in rivers and you believe in restrictions on people's speech. Yet, I don't agree with the idea that your speech is restricted so unless Watson's out there officially making threats against people I don't agree with action against him either.

If Watson had made these comments publicly....if indeed he made them at all, then I would agree with them being censored. However, he didn't.

Let me remind you that progressives and others make threats against whites and individuals on official social media all the time on left wing media all the time and no action is taken.....they aren't being recorded privately.

If this is true then it's for lawyers. However, I haven't seen anything emerge, which is probably telling.

I am not someone who believes that because Michael Jackson was accused of disgusting degeneracy that it means his records shouldn't be played or he should be erased from public memory.

This was six months ago, yet nothing. Why did no major news outlets pick this up? Why has nothing been done if it's genuine?

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 1.28pm)

Some observations.

I think it is very unlikely to be fake. The article says they spoke to another witness who claimed he had said this kind of thing before. Things that are precisely the kind of things he would say when off camera. If it was fake then he would be quickly in front of a camera making a YouTube video to denounce the attack on him. That he hasn't denied it, so far as I am aware, speaks for it's validity.

Why the MSM haven't picked it up is probably because of their need to obtain solid proof before publication. Their lawyers won't risk being accused of libel.

Threats against "whites and individuals"? What on earth does that mean? You would consider me "white" and I am certainly an individual but the only threats I get are from the far-right.

Of course he made these remarks in private, and you can say whatever you like in private. It's what you do which matters and not what you think. Nevertheless, for someone like Watson, who courts attention, it's very revealing to have his true beliefs laid bare and not those he presents, which have been sanitised for public display.

Anyone who agrees with Watson on most points, doesn't score any with me!

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 11 Nov 22 5.57pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some observations.

I think it is very unlikely to be fake. The article says they spoke to another witness who claimed he had said this kind of thing before. Things that are precisely the kind of things he would say when off camera. If it was fake then he would be quickly in front of a camera making a YouTube video to denounce the attack on him. That he hasn't denied it, so far as I am aware, speaks for it's validity.

Why the MSM haven't picked it up is probably because of their need to obtain solid proof before publication. Their lawyers won't risk being accused of libel.

Threats against "whites and individuals"? What on earth does that mean? You would consider me "white" and I am certainly an individual but the only threats I get are from the far-right.

Of course he made these remarks in private, and you can say whatever you like in private. It's what you do which matters and not what you think. Nevertheless, for someone like Watson, who courts attention, it's very revealing to have his true beliefs laid bare and not those he presents, which have been sanitised for public display.

Anyone who agrees with Watson on most points, doesn't score any with me!

Hunter Biden crack smoker and molester of kids - Photoshop fake
Paul Joseph Watson - Alleged racist comments - Probably genuine

You are beyond parody, seriously what on earth are you doing here?


 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 22 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's pretty easy to find out if it's fake or not.

You take the audio and match it to his real voice....the technology has been around for decades now.

You analyse the clip to see if there are any joins to indicate if clips of individual words have been patched together.

It's not hard in the modern age.....at least at the moment to determine whether something has been faked or not.

Honestly, it gets rather boring having to state the bleeding obvious sometimes.

If it is real, then I would expect Watson to apologise, because as Owen said, it's out of order. Otherwise not giving lies publicity is a perfectly valid response.

There are huge levels of hatred directed at Watson and as we have seen with Jones, the forces ranged against him have few ethical issues on how they get him.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 22 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Threats against "whites and individuals"? What on earth does that mean? You would consider me "white" and I am certainly an individual but the only threats I get are from the far-right.

I don't consider you 'white' actually.

As for physical threats, I don't support any threats on you for your politics. However, if you choose to 'challenge' and stalk people as a form of practice then you have to accept that negative responses will be the result. However, there is a line...especially so if you spoke this way in front of that individual: I wouldn't advise it with me....I'm pretty good at controlling myself but you definitely try to push buttons.

Unlike me, you haven't had Police sent to your door nor had a previous employer contacted because of your views. So spare us the victimhood.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 6.35pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 22 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Hunter Biden crack smoker and molester of kids - Photoshop fake
Paul Joseph Watson - Alleged racist comments - Probably genuine

You are beyond parody, seriously what on earth are you doing here?


Yep, a whole Democratic media and notably security representatives was prepared to openly lie and present it as 'Russian misinformation'.

They like to memory hole it now but they actually did that.....and then have the gall to finger point on ethics.

These people are dirty and all about the ends justifies the means.

That's how escalation happens, when nobody on both sides says this, but no further.....that didn't happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 6.41pm)

 


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Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 11 Nov 22 6.59pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's pretty easy to find out if it's fake or not.

You take the audio and match it to his real voice....the technology has been around for decades now.

You analyse the clip to see if there are any joins to indicate if clips of individual words have been patched together.

It's not hard in the modern age.....at least at the moment to determine whether something has been faked or not.

Honestly, it gets rather boring having to state the bleeding obvious sometimes.

If it is real, then I would expect Watson to apologise, because as Owen said, it's out of order. Otherwise not giving lies publicity is a perfectly valid response.

There are huge levels of hatred directed at Watson and as we have seen with Jones, the forces ranged against him have few ethical issues on how they get him.

No retraction has been made about that article since it's publication nor has any denial been made about the remarks expressed.

If that was me I'd be phoning my solicitors pretty quickly..

It's also extremely poor form to play deflection tactics and accuse others of anti-Semitism when you're rattled.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 22 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

No retraction has been made about that article since it's publication nor has any denial been made about the remarks expressed.

If that was me I'd be phoning my solicitors pretty quickly..

It's also extremely poor form to play deflection tactics and accuse others of anti-Semitism when you're rattled.


The truth isn't deflection, you have no issues with 'antisemitism' when it's tribal do you? I might agree with you that what happened to Corbyn wasn't....Kosher...so to speak, but when people like yourself use the same tactics on others (as Corbyn did himself) then my sympathies get rather worn.

Also, may I suggest that like your attitude towards free speech perhaps you don't want to recognise how guilt works either.

People are innocent until proven guilty. It's not for Watson to prove anything but for his accusers to.

This is six months old so it looks telling to me that despite the massive funding that the left receives that none of its organizations have been willing to run with this. I regard it as highly unlikely that they wouldn't have checked this out and if it was true then....let's say the same people who closed down West would have closed down Watson.

As for Watson, just how rich do you think he is? He isn't being funded by your Soros and corporates.....It makes me laugh really, the progressives sold their soul.

The Royal family have many millions but don't fight every claim put in newspapers because it ends up giving power to the claims to recognise them.

So, prove your accusations......otherwise you have the dirt on your hands, not him.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 8.18pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 22 9.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Hunter Biden crack smoker and molester of kids - Photoshop fake
Paul Joseph Watson - Alleged racist comments - Probably genuine

You are beyond parody, seriously what on earth are you doing here?


What am I doing?

I ought to be ignoring whataboutery, but I'll indulge you.

So let's look at the evidence and assess probabilities.

Hunter Biden is being targeted by the right because of who he is. Not because of what he says. It is entirely believable that someone would fake pictures of him but it really doesn't matter. He is a troubled man, who needs to be left alone and helped by the appropriate professionals. This whole thing was started by the odious Giuliani as a tactic to divert attention from his own, and his boss's behaviour. I wouldn't put anything past him.

Paul Joseph Watson has form. He is targeted because of what he says. It is entirely believable he would have said what is in the recording and this does matter. Circumstantial evidence supports the probability that it's true.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 22 9.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Amazing....apparently the massive paid jobs Hunter Biden was getting in Ukraine, with no prior industry experience, and the kickbacks to 'the Big Guy' he referred to...Well, nothing to see here.

No, it's all just about a troubled guy, who just somehow landed on his feet while being a crack addict.....breaks gun laws, nothing happens, breaks drug laws....nothing happens (Biden was very vocal and unsympathetic about locking up crack addicts in the nineties).....the double standards are so obvious that no one serious could ignore them.

Let's also remember that Biden is on video talking about threatening Ukrainian officials with funding cuts unless they stopped persecutions, he didn't like.....Incredibly an accusation they would later throw at Trump as impeachment worthy.

These people are dirty and as corrupt as hell.

Not withstanding:

The lies that the Democratic media and security representatives were willing to tell regarding the Hunter laptop is a far more serious threat to Democracy than anything Trump has ever said.

And it shows just how fake all these people are.....They have no credibility and no integrity.

All they care about is winning and the ends justifies any means.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 9.42pm)

 


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Move on. Nothing to see here.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 22 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's pretty easy to find out if it's fake or not.

You take the audio and match it to his real voice....the technology has been around for decades now.

You analyse the clip to see if there are any joins to indicate if clips of individual words have been patched together.

It's not hard in the modern age.....at least at the moment to determine whether something has been faked or not.

Honestly, it gets rather boring having to state the bleeding obvious sometimes.

If it is real, then I would expect Watson to apologise, because as Owen said, it's out of order. Otherwise not giving lies publicity is a perfectly valid response.

There are huge levels of hatred directed at Watson and as we have seen with Jones, the forces ranged against him have few ethical issues on how they get him.

It certainly ought to be easy. So why hasn't Watson, or one of his "admirers" done that? Watson knows, for sure, whether it's real, or not, so why hasn't he denied it? I would and I am quite sure you would too.

By saying nothing he isn't "not giving lies publicity"! Unless we know they are lies, with his reputation, they will be perceived as the truth. It's entirely in his own interests to speak out if it's untrue.

Jones deserves all he gets and more. To talk about those determined to bring him to justice being unethical is really nonsensical. Jones has no ethics. He is by far the worst example of that scourge of modern life, the conspiracy theorist. What's so disgusting about him is the way he has profited from it, selling snake oil to the gullible. Him being fined as heavily as he has been was good to see. Him declaring bankruptcy (which is a joke) to avoid paying totally predictable.

Watson too puts himself in the firing line, so can hardly complain when he gets fired at. He invites it. Being associated with scum like Jones doesn't help.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 22 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Amazing....apparently the massive paid jobs Hunter Biden was getting in Ukraine, with no prior industry experience, and the kickbacks to 'the Big Guy' he referred to...Well, nothing to see here.

No, it's all just about a troubled guy, who just somehow landed on his feet while being a crack addict.....breaks gun laws, nothing happens, breaks drug laws....nothing happens (Biden was very vocal and unsympathetic about locking up crack addicts in the nineties).....the double standards are so obvious that no one serious could ignore them.

Let's also remember that Biden is on video talking about threatening Ukrainian officials with funding cuts unless they stopped persecutions, he didn't like.....Incredibly an accusation they would later throw at Trump as impeachment worthy.

These people are dirty and as corrupt as hell.

Not withstanding:

The lies that the Democratic media and security representatives were willing to tell regarding the Hunter laptop is a far more serious threat to Democracy than anything Trump has ever said.

And it shows just how fake all these people are.....They have no credibility and no integrity.

All they care about is winning and the ends justifies any means.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2022 9.42pm)

That devious people tried to exploit a troubled man who happens to be the son of the potential POTUS, doesn't mean any more than there are devious people. If you are surprised by that, then I am surprised! If Biden Jnr did make reference to "kick-backs" (and I am unaware of them) it only confirms his troubles. I am quite sure Joe Biden would not have been involved. Whatever you think of his politics you can be sure he really isn't that stupid. It's just a slur. Trying to support his son, whilst avoiding him causing damage, must be a difficult balancing act.

I recall Biden threatening cuts, but not the detail. Wasn't it connected with the need to remove a corrupt official, and nothing to do with Hunter? Not that would stop people like Giuliani seeing it as an opportunity.

The idea that Hunter Biden's (he isn't a politician) laptop is a bigger threat to democracy than Donald Trump is so ridiculous that it gave me the biggest laugh this week, and I have had a few. It's a nothing story, the sort built up to epic proportions by people like Paul Joseph Watson and sold to his fans to confirm their biases. It obviously works.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Nov 2022 10.29pm)

 


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