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 Painter  Croydon 11 Dec 22 8.26am |
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Originally posted by YT
Absolutely a dodgy ref, but once again England fail to roll their sleeves up and give as good as they get. How many French attacks were stopped by a cynical foul? I can recall one. How many England attacks? Loads. Exactly the same in the Euro final; all the dirty tricks employed by the opposition and the referee too weak or too biased to punish it adequately if at all. The difference that Gareth is missing, good teams know how to win, when not playing well. Its no good being the better team, if you dont win.
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| YT Oxford 11 Dec 22 8.37am |
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Originally posted by Painter
The difference that Gareth is missing, good teams know how to win, when not playing well. Its no good being the better team, if you dont win. Do you think Southgate instructs the England players to "play fair"? Liverpool and Man City players carry out midfield skulduggery all the time - not letting the oppo build an attack and "breaking up play" - so why don't they do it while wearing an England shirt?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Dec 22 8.57am |
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Croatia will win the world cup. My lucky mate drew them in our sweepstake he is the type of fellow who if he fell down an open manhole would come up clutching a suitcase full of money. He's lumped on at 28/1
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 Dec 22 8.59am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Portuguese players not happy with the ref in their game. They are positive there is an agenda for lower teams to progress, France an exception but they are really no better or worse than us. Perhaps FIFA were happy to get rid of us
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Dec 22 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Painter
The difference that Gareth is missing, good teams know how to win, when not playing well. Its no good being the better team, if you dont win. We were not robbed, on the day I think France were slightly better than us. However once again England fail to beat a top team at a tournament, we are flat track bullies.
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| davehuggins 11 Dec 22 9.40am |
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Can Gareth Southgate take us to the next level? For me he has performed very well and converted England into a serious force. What we need now is to learn how to win when it matters and I believe this is what we are missing. We need to be positive and start believing, we have the talent but the mentality is questionable. Just my opinion.
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| Painter Croydon 11 Dec 22 10.02am |
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Originally posted by davehuggins
Can Gareth Southgate take us to the next level? For me he has performed very well and converted England into a serious force. What we need now is to learn how to win when it matters and I believe this is what we are missing. We need to be positive and start believing, we have the talent but the mentality is questionable. Just my opinion. His use of substitutions is poor. Last night he put on Sterling, who hadnt trained all week and flown home and back, rather than use Maddison, then put Rashford on with minutes to go.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 22 10.02am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We were not robbed, on the day I think France were slightly better than us. However once again England fail to beat a top team at a tournament, we are flat track bullies. We were certainly not robbed ! As you have asserted, once again we have fallen short when playing a top-ranked team at a major tournament but perhaps this will change at the next World Cup.
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| mooro Within the Temples of Syrinx 11 Dec 22 10.13am |
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I dare say Kane will be getting some stick on Tottenham away days..........
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Teddy Eagle  11 Dec 22 10.15am |
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Originally posted by Painter
His use of substitutions is poor. Last night he put on Sterling, who hadnt trained all week and flown home and back, rather than use Maddison, then put Rashford on with minutes to go. Maddison is an odd one. Prior to the tournament lots of pundits asserted that he must be in. Southgate obviously didn't agree. Conor's value hasn't increased either.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 Dec 22 10.24am |
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Originally posted by Willo
We were certainly not robbed ! As you have asserted, once again we have fallen short when playing a top-ranked team at a major tournament but perhaps this will change at the next World Cup. And if not, the next one, if not the next euros, if not the next euros and so on. It’s a mentality thing with England atm as the players are certainly there. Kane typified that yesterday, melting at the pivotal moment. It’s not a complete write off of Southgate but I don’t think he’s the manager to really instil that last piece of the puzzle. Is it the case of him performing better than previous England managers (a low bar in any context) or is he falling short with our best generation arguably since ‘66? I’d suggest the latter.
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taylors lovechild  11 Dec 22 10.53am |
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It was probably one of the most open games I've seen this WC with neither team sitting back and defending, but that probably favoured France slightly. For me Saka has been the outstanding player for England, but I feel a bit sorry for Rashford who really deserved more than a cameo. Croatia have been the most boring team this WC to watch so I hope they lose. I'm hoping a miracle happens and Morocco wins it.
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