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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 11 Jan 22 7.59am
Originally posted by Willo It is obvious what Andersen was thinking but if he looks over his shoulder and sees the run of Afobe then I suspect he tracks the run. I have made my case, clearly others disagree and I really have nothing more to add.HOL would be poorer if it was merely an 'Echo chamber'. I shall ignore the slurs about me not being qualified to make judgements etc etc etc. On a positive note,credit to our team for coming back from a goal down in front of howling rottweillers and scoring two excellent goals to win.Well done! Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 3.57pm) It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of. You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending. Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland.
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 11 Jan 22 7.59am

Originally posted by Willo

It is obvious what Andersen was thinking but if he looks over his shoulder and sees the run of Afobe then I suspect he tracks the run.

I have made my case, clearly others disagree and I really have nothing more to add.HOL would be poorer if it was merely an 'Echo chamber'.
I shall ignore the slurs about me not being qualified to make judgements etc etc etc.

On a positive note,credit to our team for coming back from a goal down in front of howling rottweillers and scoring two excellent goals to win.Well done!

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 3.57pm)

It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of.

You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending.

Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 8.26am
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of. You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending. Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland. I stand firmly behind my comments. You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument. Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 8.26am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of.

I stand firmly behind my comments.
You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument.

Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)

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Goal Machine The Cronx 11 Jan 22 9.56am
Originally posted by Willo For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot. I accept there will be some,probably many, who will conclude that I am being harsh on Andersen and spouting hogwash. Come on, Willo. You're having a shocker here. You can't seriously be suggesting that a defender should be tracking a runner into his own 6 years box whilst we have possession? I don't need to see any replay's to know that Butland was 100% at fault. As the pundits said, in that scenario, Butland should have hoofed it the moment he realised he was in trouble.
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The Cronx 11 Jan 22 9.56am

Originally posted by Willo

For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot.
I accept there will be some,probably many, who will conclude that I am being harsh on Andersen and spouting hogwash.

Come on, Willo. You're having a shocker here. You can't seriously be suggesting that a defender should be tracking a runner into his own 6 years box whilst we have possession?

I don't need to see any replay's to know that Butland was 100% at fault. As the pundits said, in that scenario, Butland should have hoofed it the moment he realised he was in trouble.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jan 22 10.16am
Originally posted by Willo I stand firmly behind my comments. You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument. Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am) Sorry, Willo but I think you are digging a hole for yourself here. When playing out from the back the idea is surely to break through any press. For that to happen, defenders need to place themselves in positions to receive the ball from either the keeper or another defender. Andersen was in the right place. Unfortunately, Butland dithered and lost control of the ball instead of passing out to Andersen (taking the two Millwall forwards out of the game) or hoofing it up field if he felt that pass wasn't fully on. For me it was clearly Butland's error and no blame should be laid at Andersen's door.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jan 22 10.16am

Originally posted by Willo

Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)

Sorry, Willo but I think you are digging a hole for yourself here. When playing out from the back the idea is surely to break through any press. For that to happen, defenders need to place themselves in positions to receive the ball from either the keeper or another defender. Andersen was in the right place. Unfortunately, Butland dithered and lost control of the ball instead of passing out to Andersen (taking the two Millwall forwards out of the game) or hoofing it up field if he felt that pass wasn't fully on. For me it was clearly Butland's error and no blame should be laid at Andersen's door.

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dg1937 11 Jan 22 10.27am
I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.
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dg1937

11 Jan 22 10.27am

I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 11 Jan 22 10.33am
Originally posted by Spiderman FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment [Link] Just seen this, seems they 'might' be backtracking now . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 11 Jan 22 10.33am

Originally posted by Spiderman

FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment

[Link]

Just seen this, seems they 'might' be backtracking now . . .

[Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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silvertop Portishead 11 Jan 22 11.37am
Originally posted by Painter That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season. How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual. Yes I thought it was quite clever TBF
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silvertop

Portishead 11 Jan 22 11.37am

Originally posted by Painter

That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season.

How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual.

Yes I thought it was quite clever TBF

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 11.47am
Originally posted by dg1937 I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend. In the final analysis, it was Butland who presented the opportunity to Afobe to score so of course he is culpable, however he was faced with a situation whereby TWO Millwall players closed him down without any of his teammates near him. I totally understand this playing out from the back and beating the press etc etc and the thinking of Andersen based on this philosophy, however Afobe was allowed to run free into the box at a time when another Millwall player was advancing on Butland to close him down.The player who had a free run eventually scored. I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't wish to add any more on this subject. Would far rather channel my comments regarding the splendid victory after going a goal down and the excellent goals we scored. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 11.49am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 11.47am

Originally posted by dg1937

I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.

In the final analysis, it was Butland who presented the opportunity to Afobe to score so of course he is culpable, however he was faced with a situation whereby TWO Millwall players closed him down without any of his teammates near him.

I totally understand this playing out from the back and beating the press etc etc and the thinking of Andersen based on this philosophy, however Afobe was allowed to run free into the box at a time when another Millwall player was advancing on Butland to close him down.The player who had a free run eventually scored.

I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't wish to add any more on this subject.
Would far rather channel my comments regarding the splendid victory after going a goal down and the excellent goals we scored.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 11.49am)

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Midlands Eagle 11 Jan 22 12.54pm
Originally posted by Willo In the final analysis, it was Butland who presented the opportunity to Afobe to score so of course he is culpable, however he was faced with a situation whereby TWO Millwall players closed him down without any of his teammates near him. I totally understand this playing out from the back and beating the press etc etc and the thinking of Andersen based on this philosophy, however Afobe was allowed to run free into the box at a time when another Millwall player was advancing on Butland to close him down.The player who had a free run eventually scored. I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't wish to add any more on this subject. Would far rather channel my comments regarding the splendid victory after going a goal down and the excellent goals we scored. Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight
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11 Jan 22 12.54pm

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Originally posted by Willo

Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight

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BlueJay UK 11 Jan 22 12.57pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight Come on now, everyone loves a Willo flourish
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BlueJay

UK 11 Jan 22 12.57pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight

Come on now, everyone loves a Willo flourish

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 11 Jan 22 12.59pm
Originally posted by Wippa Why wouldn’t we have black fans?? You really think Millwall games are like one big KKK meeting? Just because the knee gets booed (I don’t boo, for the record) doesn’t mean that everyone booing is a racist. A lot of people just don’t like BLM and the fact that they smashed up and defaced THEIR city a couple of summers ago. They find them divisive, and feel they cause more problems than they solve. That’s their opinion and they’ve a right to it. Doesn’t make them all racist. We’ve got plenty of black fans and we, us snarling racists, have voted black players as our player of the season on numerous occasions. There are lots black people who are seen as Millwall legends, both on and off the pitch, down The Den and held in very high regard down there. “Amazingly they have some black fans too” 😂 …. Clown I used to guiltily chuckle when some Millwall fans chanted for their star striker by cleverly combining it with what suspiciously sounded like a monkey chant: 'Ooh Ooh Fashanu' Edited by Slimey Toad (11 Jan 2022 1.00pm)
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Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 11 Jan 22 12.59pm

Originally posted by Wippa

Why wouldn’t we have black fans?? You really think Millwall games are like one big KKK meeting?

Just because the knee gets booed (I don’t boo, for the record) doesn’t mean that everyone booing is a racist. A lot of people just don’t like BLM and the fact that they smashed up and defaced THEIR city a couple of summers ago. They find them divisive, and feel they cause more problems than they solve. That’s their opinion and they’ve a right to it. Doesn’t make them all racist.

We’ve got plenty of black fans and we, us snarling racists, have voted black players as our player of the season on numerous occasions. There are lots black people who are seen as Millwall legends, both on and off the pitch, down The Den and held in very high regard down there.

“Amazingly they have some black fans too” 😂 …. Clown

I used to guiltily chuckle when some Millwall fans chanted for their star striker by cleverly combining it with what suspiciously sounded like a monkey chant: 'Ooh Ooh Fashanu'

Edited by Slimey Toad (11 Jan 2022 1.00pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 1.01pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight I accept your suave blandishment with good grace. Some clearly prefer 'Willoese' flying off my linguistic dodgem.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 1.01pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Congratulations on writing three paragraphs totalling 181 words all in plain English with none of your ridiculous Willoese in sight

I accept your suave blandishment with good grace.
Some clearly prefer 'Willoese' flying off my linguistic dodgem.

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