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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 21 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That’s a serious amount of army equipment in the hands of the Taliban. No wonder they were dancing to ‘Only fools and horses’ music with all that stuff they now have

Soon to be sold on the black market to any terrorist or bad guy then smuggled into Europe?

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 25 Aug 21 9.26pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

How long has Trump not been president now?
Its a bit weird to pin this on him.

As has been said already Biden scrapped everything Trump planned.
Literally no other government or military was told what the US was planning, its why the British Government held Biden in contempt - Trump never got such an accolade, I think the worst he got was some bell end calling him a wazzock.

Trumps not been president for 9 months-although he thinks he still is, Bidens been in for 7 months, so do you think all that stuff came sine Biden arrived and not in Trumps 4 years? Biden didn"t scrap everything-the withdrawal from Afghan was Trumps baby, he did the deal with the taliban, Biden got flak from him for not moving faster!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 Aug 21 11.26pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Trumps not been president for 9 months-although he thinks he still is, Bidens been in for 7 months, so do you think all that stuff came sine Biden arrived and not in Trumps 4 years? Biden didn"t scrap everything-the withdrawal from Afghan was Trumps baby, he did the deal with the taliban, Biden got flak from him for not moving faster!

Trump kicked the can down the road because exiting was always bound to be a complete disaster, primarily because we shouldn't have been there in the first place and secondly because leaving would result in the country returning to its formal tribal nature and taliban rule. Either way veterans and the families or those who never came back are right to say what was the f***ing point.


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Aug 21 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Trumps not been president for 9 months-although he thinks he still is, Bidens been in for 7 months, so do you think all that stuff came sine Biden arrived and not in Trumps 4 years? Biden didn"t scrap everything-the withdrawal from Afghan was Trumps baby, he did the deal with the taliban, Biden got flak from him for not moving faster!

The facts show that's just not true.

Trump's deal with the Taliban was for an exit in May.

Since Biden has come in he's done little but reverse all of Trump policies.....yet you seem to believe that leaving Afghanistan was a policy he couldn't reverse?

Why the hell not?...the US only had 2,500 troops there. One of the first things Biden did on taking office was to pushback the withdrawn to to August with the intention of having all troops out by September 11th. In doing this he broke....and knowingly broke Trump's agreement with the Taliban. They started fighting again when in Trump's agreement bombing would restart at that point.

You are making excuses for Biden.....who ignored his military and cut and run in the most incompetent fashion available to him.....he has left a giant mess.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 11.42pm)

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Aug 21 6.54am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The facts show that's just not true.

Trump's deal with the Taliban was for an exit in May.

Since Biden has come in he's done little but reverse all of Trump policies.....yet you seem to believe that leaving Afghanistan was a policy he couldn't reverse?

Why the hell not?...the US only had 2,500 troops there. One of the first things Biden did on taking office was to pushback the withdrawn to to August with the intention of having all troops out by September 11th. In doing this he broke....and knowingly broke Trump's agreement with the Taliban. They started fighting again when in Trump's agreement bombing would restart at that point.

You are making excuses for Biden.....who ignored his military and cut and run in the most incompetent fashion available to him.....he has left a giant mess.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 11.42pm)

Anyone else notice how quiet the Biden fan club have been here? Would they have been so quiet if this had been Trump? At least CP has put his head up above the parapet

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Aug 21 10.44am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Anyone else notice how quiet the Biden fan club have been here? Would they have been so quiet if this had been Trump? At least CP has put his head up above the parapet

I’ve heard many left wing activists slate Biden for this. Something I e never heard before, although probably did before Blair got into bed with Bush over Iraq. I just can’t remember, a bit like Biden.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 26 Aug 21 10.50am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The facts show that's just not true.

Trump's deal with the Taliban was for an exit in May.

Since Biden has come in he's done little but reverse all of Trump policies.....yet you seem to believe that leaving Afghanistan was a policy he couldn't reverse?

Why the hell not?...the US only had 2,500 troops there. One of the first things Biden did on taking office was to pushback the withdrawn to to August with the intention of having all troops out by September 11th. In doing this he broke....and knowingly broke Trump's agreement with the Taliban. They started fighting again when in Trump's agreement bombing would restart at that point.

You are making excuses for Biden.....who ignored his military and cut and run in the most incompetent fashion available to him.....he has left a giant mess.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 11.42pm)

Indeed,...I am struggling to think of any worser way in which a withdrawl policy could be implemented. Biden has fcked absolutely everything.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Aug 21 11.46am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Indeed,...I am struggling to think of any worser way in which a withdrawl policy could be implemented. Biden has fcked absolutely everything.

All the soldiers, logistics and families could walk through a mountain pass: that would be worse.

 


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Matov Flag 26 Aug 21 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Reports of a bomb attack at Kabul Airport. They had been warning about the possibilty.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 3.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The facts show that's just not true.

Trump's deal with the Taliban was for an exit in May.

Since Biden has come in he's done little but reverse all of Trump policies.....yet you seem to believe that leaving Afghanistan was a policy he couldn't reverse?

Why the hell not?...the US only had 2,500 troops there. One of the first things Biden did on taking office was to pushback the withdrawn to to August with the intention of having all troops out by September 11th. In doing this he broke....and knowingly broke Trump's agreement with the Taliban. They started fighting again when in Trump's agreement bombing would restart at that point.

You are making excuses for Biden.....who ignored his military and cut and run in the most incompetent fashion available to him.....he has left a giant mess.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 11.42pm)


Trump criticised Biden for not getting out sooner, you can"t make excuses for Trump all the time, Biden is doing what the American public want, getting out of dodge, but will it com,e back to haunt him? Time will tell, the mid term elections might throw up a suprise.
The one thing I can be sure of, if Trump had behaved exactly as Biden has, most on here would say its what the American public wanted and that"s his number one priority- not worrying about the Afghans.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 3.56pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Anyone else notice how quiet the Biden fan club have been here? Would they have been so quiet if this had been Trump? At least CP has put his head up above the parapet

Thanks Spider, I know Biden has handled the withdrawal badly, and you are correct about how people would react if Trump was in charge. Thats exactly my point, in reverse, if Trump was in charge, lots on the right, would be saying it"s what the Americans want and he is just doing what he was voted in for, looking after his own country first. This is the usual practice on here, maybe in life, you just stick with your side, but usually can deemed a hypocrite if you flip it, me included!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Aug 21 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Before a press conference I’m waiting for Biden to forget to put his teeth in or put his disposable pants on so he saturates his trousers and the floor around him.

 


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