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cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jun 18 1.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Not called anyone thick in my post that I recall? I have mentioned racism. What I do know from a being born here that unfortunately there are a lot of racist people here. And that all of the people I see online banging the drum about this, that I know well from school or old work colleagues or general associates, are racists. They’re the people who haven’t left the country and made friends with other cultures. They’re the people who have their minds made up for them by the media and get caught up in the machine instead of getting away and looking back on things in a non objective or abstract manner. This is fine as racism is a worldwide thing. It exists in all cultures. What is now happening that these people are being called out and instead of owning their racism and saying point blank “yes I am racist”. They are still denying it whilst displaying more and more racist propaganda on Facebook and the likes and getting more on their haunches about racist matters with each passing day.
Not all racists are thick. Which is the scariest part of this whole divide. Their are some very clever bigots out there who draw the uneducated into their beliefs with lies and scaremongering. Much like Hitler did. For example, a line I see written or hear a lot is “my grandfather stood up to fascism for nothing!” In reference to Hitler and the world wars. Yet they’re employing almost identical tactics to the fuher, to give rise to their ideology and beliefs. And it's the simple lot that can’t see that and carry on, or worse, they do realise it and side with it.
This whole thing stinks of double standards and hypocrisy. That can’t be denied by the people trying to defend Tommy. To me it is Tommy Robinson using a very hearts and minds tactic to stir up further racial tension. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that. The sensitive subject of his latest weapon against Muslims makes it even more sickening. If He genuinely cared about the subject matter as a whole then he should have been at all the other pedo cases to stick it to all the other sick individuals at their cases no matter the colour or creed. How about turning up at the case of his associate from his EDL days to let him have it? He wouldn’t do that now would he. Wouldn’t benefit his agenda in any way shape or form.
As always, look at the bigger picture. Research research research. Then make your point. That way no one can use the words thick or racist in their responses.

It's called reading between the lines
It's what your post intimated, that any one with an ounce of support for TR doesn't get it.
Now then with this post you are basically saying anyone who doesn't want to be friends with ethnic people is racist. Not that many people don't to be honest. I reckon 99.999% of people don't insult ethnic people whenever they meet them.
Surely that makes them ....not racist.
Unless minority report is real!
I believe you are clouding the issue here.
Basically I think there are a lot of xenophobic people; for damn good reasons with recent events.
You need to stop mixing these two words up because they are different with different meanings and connotations.
Also being called racist is bloody insulting
If you want to see racism go speak to Mugabe's followers. Funny don't see much bleating about that issue and farming in Zimbabwe. Still that's racism towards white people so don't matter eh.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 Jun 18 1.50pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I think most of us would agree that integration is a good thing for social cohesion regardless of where you originally come from, or what god you pray to.

Both Labour and Tory governments have talked about this but do precious little. In some case they are making it worse by encouraging faith schools. Social housing is another area where they are failing.

It cannot be healthy that we have neighbourhoods that are heavily populated by newcomers. I hear politicians talk about quotas for all sorts of areas of life but never about this.

Would it not make sense for local councils to have a policy that tries to disperse new arrivals more evenly instead of putting them on the same estate. I am not suggesting that we "kick people out of their home" but when a social housing property became available the council could take the opportunity ensure a reasonable balance of people is achieved.

I suppose this could be called racist but with a bit of common-sense you could start to balance out areas so they are more integrated over time.

My guess is that politicians are happy to demand quotas for universities, FTSE 100 companies, TV shows etc. but would be terrified to do this.

Growing up in an area where your neighbours are from the same place as you and you go to a local faith school is not healthy. Neither of these things are bad in themselves but together and you wonder just how much will those people know about this country and its culture.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 Jun 18 2.43pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I think most of us would agree that integration is a good thing for social cohesion regardless of where you originally come from, or what god you pray to.

Both Labour and Tory governments have talked about this but do precious little. In some case they are making it worse by encouraging faith schools. Social housing is another area where they are failing.

It cannot be healthy that we have neighbourhoods that are heavily populated by newcomers. I hear politicians talk about quotas for all sorts of areas of life but never about this.

Would it not make sense for local councils to have a policy that tries to disperse new arrivals more evenly instead of putting them on the same estate. I am not suggesting that we "kick people out of their home" but when a social housing property became available the council could take the opportunity ensure a reasonable balance of people is achieved.

I suppose this could be called racist but with a bit of common-sense you could start to balance out areas so they are more integrated over time.

My guess is that politicians are happy to demand quotas for universities, FTSE 100 companies, TV shows etc. but would be terrified to do this.

Growing up in an area where your neighbours are from the same place as you and you go to a local faith school is not healthy. Neither of these things are bad in themselves but together and you wonder just how much will those people know about this country and its culture.

Being devil's advocate and of course a racist !!!!
I would admit I don't care much for other faiths and beliefs to be honest. That's clearly racist ?!
Why would I in their shoes care about mine.thats racist as well then.
The only cavatat being it isn't really mainstream for these islands.
Ironic considering what I post but that's it in a nutshell.
The failure of all this being the world is getting eminently smaller as population rises.
Once we understand and believe this it might start working globally.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Jun 18 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What a complete load of tosh. This country is up there with the most tolerant in the world.

If you're talking about whiteys then perhaps you are correct but much of the racial intolerance in this country emanates from the ethnic minorities many of whom are quite happy to admit that they hate each other.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Jun 18 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you're talking about whiteys then perhaps you are correct but much of the racial intolerance in this country emanates from the ethnic minorities many of whom are quite happy to admit that they hate each other.

Society is full of double standards. The progressive element of the left have lower standards for minorities or don't even address the problems they have.....If you are a minority within a minority you're extra stuffed...being gay or an apostate for example.....and god forbid we talk about the state's record on FGM and forced marriage/slavery in this country.....all problems that were introduced.

I noticed that with the latest Muslim to be convicted on terror charges....this silly Islamic girl the BBC doesn't touch religion.

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Yet, if you go onto Bake Off and win it.....Suddenly your religion is so important to them.

Double standards and obvious agendas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2018 3.52pm)

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 06 Jun 18 8.45pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

As a conservative, I think Tommy Robinson is a cock.he isn’t a freedom fighter or some sort of Luton Ghandi. He is a bellend.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 18 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Being devil's advocate and of course a racist !!!!
I would admit I don't care much for other faiths and beliefs to be honest. That's clearly racist ?!
Why would I in their shoes care about mine.thats racist as well then.
The only cavatat being it isn't really mainstream for these islands.
Ironic considering what I post but that's it in a nutshell.
The failure of all this being the world is getting eminently smaller as population rises.
Once we understand and believe this it might start working globally.

The idea that a religion is a 'race' is daft beyond belief.
I would not encourage such stupid ideas.
I loathe religion and I'm not afraid to say so or accept a challenge to demonstrate how dumb it all is.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 18 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you're talking about whiteys then perhaps you are correct but much of the racial intolerance in this country emanates from the ethnic minorities many of whom are quite happy to admit that they hate each other.

Yes, what a nice little battleground we have created in Britain. A microcosm of humanity and all its idiocy.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jun 18 5.59pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The idea that a religion is a 'race' is daft beyond belief.
I would not encourage such stupid ideas.
I loathe religion and I'm not afraid to say so or accept a challenge to demonstrate how dumb it all is.

It doesn't need encouraging holf
It's here.
The fact a Muslim is a Muslim is 99% of the time more important than their race or country of origin.
Try asking!!!
Then ask English people or yanks or poles etc what is more important
Their religion or their race; that being linked to their country of origin for example.
Unless they are Muslim their country is more important.
The waters are muddy.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Jun 18 11.40pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If you're talking about whiteys then perhaps you are correct but much of the racial intolerance in this country emanates from the ethnic minorities many of whom are quite happy to admit that they hate each other.

Are you talking of the scots , welsh and irish when they look with anger at england ?

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 08 Jun 18 12.28pm

It’s sad to see regression in any form in society. It seems that there are people out there on all sides who are hell bent on wrecking all the progress made over the last century in regards to multiculturalism.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Jun 18 12.57pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

It’s sad to see regression in any form in society. It seems that there are people out there on all sides who are hell bent on wrecking all the progress made over the last century in regards to multiculturalism.

It's here but with issues:
Mainly religion.
This due to the fact that certain religions are life to certain people.
If you want to slag off the bible I won't give a toss. Ie life of Brian that Mel Gibson jobby and some songs .It goes on.
Some Christians will I know.
Try slagging off the qoran to a Muslim.
Salmon Rushdie. Charlie hebdo ffs that was a cartoon.
I swear you would find it hard to find a handful whom wouldn't want to cut your throat.
the only way it will work is when religion stops being the absolute end game.
That's why it's not to do with being multi cultural.
We already are.
It's because of the religious effect.
Like I said in another post, the bible is 400 years older than the qoran. We as a society thought as they do now . The west now sees how mad that was with tiny exceptions.
Once muslims realise it's mad then it can move forwards. Until then watch your arse.

 

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