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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 8.12pm

Originally posted by Willo

I think you will find it was David Cameron who was PM at the time NOT Theresa May.Collective Cabinet responsibility and all that.Things have moved on since then.

Of course pending Brexit negotiations, the manifesto mentioned bringing immigration down to sustainable levels so Theresa May as PM should be judged on this NOT going back to 2010 !

Now out with my wife. Have a good evening 'Gusseting'.

Where are you going this time? The petrol station for some munchies. (I jest have a lovely evening)


I do recall that your Treez was all over the tellybox with the tens of thousands claim. Have a read of the spectator article i linked to. She wasn't a very good home secretary.

I will say she's done well to make it to the summer recess (Brexit ain't that important then!) but whether that's down to her or lack of leadership material in the tory ranks remains to be seen.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 17 8.40pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's completely evident you haven't read the last few exchanges between myself and willo.
good work.

You don't expect me to read all the b*ll**k* on here do you? But my point is, given your starry-eyed views on immigration, surely you would applaud any failures to control it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 8.47pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You don't expect me to read all the b*ll**k* on here do you? But my point is, given your starry-eyed views on immigration, surely you would applaud any failures to control it.


Read all the bollocks on here? It would make sense to have some idea of what is being discussed before wading in. Are you an act first questions later sorta guy?
For the record, the immigration figures were under discussion in order to highlight treezes ineptitude in following through with what she says.
It was part of a discussion on Theresa May's record.

What, out of interest, do you percieve my 'starry-eyed' views on immigration to be? I'd love to know. Be interesting to see how close your perceptions are.

Edited by nickgusset (08 Jul 2017 8.50pm)

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 17 8.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Read all the bollocks on here? It would make sense to have some idea of what is being discussed before wading in. Are you an act first questions later sorta guy?
For the record, the immigration figures were under discussion in order to highlight treezes ineptitude in following through with what she says.
It was part of a discussion on Theresa May's record.

What, out of interest, do you percieve my 'starry-eyed' views on immigration to be? I'd love to know. Be interesting to see how close your perceptions are.

Edited by nickgusset (08 Jul 2017 8.50pm)

Are you disputing that most of the posts on here are b*ll*k*!?
I perceive your view on immigration as it being an unmitigated blessing that has contributed massively to the country in some way or another and that we need more of it, not less. If I am wrong in my perception, perhaps you could list for us any problems and drawbacks of immigration.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jul 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You can't help mention labour yet still haven't mentioned Treez.

I'd rather mention the piss poor job the last Labour government did which is why we now have a Tory government still trying to fix the mess Labour created.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jul 17 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

You can tell Gusset's all up in the air? As he has a New catch phrase 'Treez' still raining in Chislehurst is it?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 9.11pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Are you disputing that most of the posts on here are b*ll*k*!?
I perceive your view on immigration as it being an unmitigated blessing that has contributed massively to the country in some way or another and that we need more of it, not less. If I am wrong in my perception, perhaps you could list for us any problems and drawbacks of immigration.


Biggest drawback is the bigots going on about it.

Immigration numbers should ebb and flow as we don't always need the same amount of workers over time.

Do we have the skills / training and expertise among our current population to carry out massive infrastructure projects like house building or fill gaps in the job market such as in the nhs or other public services. It's no good completely restricting immigration if we haven't got enough skilled labour.

Once we start to see the fruits of any investment in training, apprenticeships or even entreprenuership / business start ups, then we look at reducing numbers.

I do think there needs to be control over immigration, and there is. It's not as free for all as some would like you to believe.

Also, immigration is used (imo) as a dead cat argument to divert from what are the real causes for the state of our proud nation is successive governments putting the population behind other more personal interests.

I also don't judge people by where they are from. i don't care where my neighbours come from as long as they are ok people.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 17 9.15pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Biggest drawback is the bigots going on about it.

Immigration numbers should ebb and flow as we don't always need the same amount of workers over time.

Do we have the skills / training and expertise among our current population to carry out massive infrastructure projects like house building or fill gaps in the job market such as in the nhs or other public services. It's no good completely restricting immigration if we haven't got enough skilled labour.

Once we start to see the fruits of any investment in training, apprenticeships or even entreprenuership / business start ups, then we look at reducing numbers.

I do think there needs to be control over immigration, and there is. It's not as free for all as some would like you to believe.

Also, immigration is used (imo) as a dead cat argument to divert from what are the real causes for the state of our proud nation is successive governments putting the population behind other more personal interests.

I also don't judge people by where they are from. i don't care where my neighbours come from as long as they are ok people.

What about the non-bigots who have concerns over immigration - should they keep quite too?
Why do you want to reduce immigration? What are your reasons for wanting controls over immigration?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jul 17 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Biggest drawback is the bigots going on about it.

Immigration numbers should ebb and flow as we don't always need the same amount of workers over time.

Do we have the skills / training and expertise among our current population to carry out massive infrastructure projects like house building or fill gaps in the job market such as in the nhs or other public services. It's no good completely restricting immigration if we haven't got enough skilled labour.

Once we start to see the fruits of any investment in training, apprenticeships or even entreprenuership / business start ups, then we look at reducing numbers.

I do think there needs to be control over immigration, and there is. It's not as free for all as some would like you to believe.

Also, immigration is used (imo) as a dead cat argument to divert from what are the real causes for the state of our proud nation is successive governments putting the population behind other more personal interests.

I also don't judge people by where they are from. i don't care where my neighbours come from as long as they are ok people.

Yeah coz them 'bigots' have been proved wrong about the problems with mass immigration haven't they.

All those terrorist attacks,organised crime, gang culture, housing shortage, suppressed wages and religious intolerance is all in our minds.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 9.54pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What about the non-bigots who have concerns over immigration - should they keep quite too?
Why do you want to reduce immigration? What are your reasons for wanting controls over immigration?

The conversation was about theresa may, not me.

Stop trying to deflect.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 9.57pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

You can tell Gusset's all up in the air? As he has a New catch phrase 'Treez' still raining in Chislehurst is it?

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 17 9.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

The conversation was about theresa may, not me.

Stop trying to deflect.

Very simple questions, that of course you will not answer.

 


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