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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Nest

So what are your nasty parties policies?

I don't have a party.....except for my birthday.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Apr 17 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't know that.

Giant butterfly nets would be useless. My son is ace with a catapault though so you could be right.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 6.31pm

Originally posted by Nest

So what are your nasty parties policies?

f*** the disabled
f*** the poor
help the rich

 

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Nest Flag 20 Apr 17 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Nest Add Nest as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't have a party.....except for my birthday.

A porcine party with dodgy* dave
*credit beast of Bolsover

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 6.34pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Giant butterfly nets would be useless. My son is ace with a catapault though so you could be right.

Ronnie had a plan.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Apr 17 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Be interesting to see which of these policies people don't agree with.


Labour Party policies


Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts

This policy is fair enough.

Originally posted by nickgusset

£10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18

Not sure how affordable this is.

Originally posted by nickgusset


All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation

Yep agree.


Originally posted by nickgusset

Renationalise the railways

The Tories fecked the system up but this is probably too expensive now.


Originally posted by nickgusset

Renationalise the NHS

Nope, the NHS is a bottomless black hole that will rapidly increase its costs as us old fecks get on. There has to be a different take on this.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Free school meals

I agree with the policy aims but...after initially being quite positive about this.... I'm not sure that this is the best way to achieve them.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Create a National Education Service

Sounds good.


Originally posted by nickgusset


Scrap tuition fees

The whole system is unaffordable as it is. Even the loans system that has been created itself isn't affordable and won't collect on the debt.

Scrapping it would be so much worse. This also needs a fresh solution.

Originally posted by nickgusset


Restore NHS Bursaries

I don't know enough either way about this one.

But a good way of solving the recruitment crises would be getting rid of that ridiculous requirement for a Nurse to have a degree.....Go back to A-levels and recruit from the vast majority of hard working class girls out there.....and those men who also want to mince around wards.


Originally posted by nickgusset


Increase the carers allowance

Yep agree.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Create a National Investment Bank

Sounds like a good idea.


Originally posted by nickgusset

End the public sector pay freeze

What about the resulting affect on inflation? I'd probably rather go with crawling back the disgraceful above one percent rise given to MPs.

Many in the private sector had wage cuts...not freezes.

Originally posted by nickgusset

End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations

Nope, scares away investment to other countries that will. It's unethical but if you don't dance with the devil you don't get no music man....and I like to move.


Originally posted by nickgusset

Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers

This should be happening already.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts

Nope...we need the b******s here...especially since we are leaving another set of arseholes in the EU.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Defend Human Rights

Churchill's system wasn't to rule over British law actually.

We don't need more human rights. Feminists and human rights lawyers have fecked it up enough already.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Zero Hours Contracts ban

I don't know about a ban....but more protections certainly.


Originally posted by nickgusset

Holding the Tories to account over Brexit

Nope....full speed ahead, man the torpedoes!


Originally posted by nickgusset

Housebuilding

I don't think this is such a left or right issue.....More of how its done....Certainly the Tories need to get a move on with this.

Originally posted by nickgusset

Combat inequality

Yep....I just don't think that Labour would achieve that..... to any great extent anyway.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Apr 17 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't have a party.....except for my birthday.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Nest

A porcine party with dodgy* dave
*credit beast of Bolsover

I prefer take away, cake and heterosexual sex afterwards. (when the cake has gone down a bit).

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

f*** the disabled
f*** the poor
help the rich

I'd rather f*** the rich. As long as they are paying for the meal.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Apr 17 6.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

97% of the world countries are 'defenceless' against nuclear attack and, let's face it, if nuclear missiles were launched in our direction our 'defence' could do fvck all about it.

If dear boy....

The fact that we have five nuclear armed subs ready to throw back is the defence.

It's called assured mutual destruction.

Most of those 97 percent have their arses covered by a nuclear ally.

You are getting a repuation Kermy....Your stats should really start with a disclaimer.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2017 6.42pm)

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 6.55pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Be interesting to see which of these policies people don't agree with.


Labour Party policies


Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts
It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax?

£10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18
The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days).

All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation
Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords) deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation.

Renationalise the railways
This is a very popular policy that is supported by an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current shambles is acceptable?

Renationalise the NHS
The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not for profit public service, or the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda?

Free school meals
The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools.

Create a National Education Service
Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it.

Scrap tuition fees
Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers) UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the industrialised world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees.

Restore NHS Bursaries
One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for nurses has caused a huge 10,000 decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. This collapse in nursing recruitment would be bad enough in its own right, but in combination with a record increase in the number of EU nurses quitting the NHS and a mind-boggling 92% fall in nursing recruitment from EU countries, the UK is clearly facing a massive NHS recruitment crisis. Labour would reverse this calamitous state of affairs by restoring NHS Bursaries for trainee nurses.

Increase the carers allowance
Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they're doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget.

Create a National Investment Bank
This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK.

End the public sector pay freeze
Under Tory rule UK workers suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand.

End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations
David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging.

Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers
Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests.

Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts
Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world. The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Theresa May has already threatened to lower the corporation tax even further to turn post-brexit Britiain into a tax haven economy, Corbyn is proposing to do the opposite and increase corporation tax rates so they're more in line with the rest of the developed world.

Defend Human Rights
Theresa May has repeatedly expressed her intention to tear up Winston Churchill's finest legacy, the European Convention on Human Rights. Labour would oppose this Tory attack on our human rights.

Zero Hours Contracts ban
Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts. Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation.

Holding the Tories to account over Brexit
Labour have said that they won't block Brexit, but they will seek to hold the Tories to account over it. A landslide Tory victory would be a disaster for the UK because it would allow Theresa May to pursue the most right-wing pro-corporate anti-worker Brexit possible with almost no democratic scrutiny. The only way to make sure the Tories don't push a fanatically right-wing Brexit on the nation is to ensure that there are plenty of opposition MPs to hold them to account.

Housebuilding
Under the Tory government the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing to invest in a programme of housebuilding, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy by increasing aggregate demand.

Combat inequality
George Osborne's ideological austerity agenda resulted in the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier.

I find a lot to agree there N and thanks for your time spent over it.

However over brexit you are telling us how the tories would be held to account not what the labour party will do if elected.

IMO they should go for scrapping it altogether as the only real benefit of reducing immigration will not happen as labour and tories have both said.

That could restore Labour with remainers that is 48%
could win an election.

 

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NKEagle Flag Pyongyang 20 Apr 17 6.56pm Send a Private Message to NKEagle Add NKEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nest

So what are your nasty parties policies?

Always use protection, no picture taking, and no means no. But I'm not sure what that has to do with anything...

 

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