We will still be renewing our season tickets as before 2013.

COYP

I never said you were a c***, and i dont think you are either. I've been going longer than you and i am still just as passionate but i guess also, a sense of calm has come with age. I hate losing but we are where we are. I know you said you wanted fat sam but i disagree. SP and the others will take action when they deem it necessary and i reckon he will get to christmas and aee where we are then. No point in getting stressed cos we have no say whatsoever. Remember the sad geprdies tried and AP still dodnt get sacked. He left of his own accord. Not gone great since then for them has it.?

hahaha trendy bearded one, tell me hows the skinny jeans going these days ?

As I've explained and as anyone who knows me will tell you I am Palace through and through and have been home and away for years and years. I love Palace,I just don't happen to love to AP like you lot. His record or win ratio is beyond s***.

As for other managers, that's also a hard question to answer as lets be honest we have had bargain basement managers since we got promoted, so we are in no position to question other managers like Allardyce's credentials as we simply have never had someone of his quality.

AP is a young manager who seems to have a massive ego problem, well documented by new castle fans who we all includding me slagged off. But they are right, or at least appear to be.

I wear my heart on my sleave and am passionate about my club, and when I see it going tits up, I think Over the 30 odd years of supporting the club I have a right to say so.

And to be honest not you or the gobshyte that is citizen smudge will stop me calling the current performances for what they are. Naive.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Whatever our thoughts on AP and many of us on here have wildly differing views we all want Palace to do well.
At the moment and for the last 10 months (other than the Cup) we haven't.
So - either the players are not good enough or the Manager isn't doing his job properly.
Our players on paper are good enough to finish in the top 10 if organised and directed and managed properly.
In my opinion that is not happening - I don't see a team with spirit or a game plan nowadays.
I don't expect us to win the League or get into Europe but I do want to see improvements.
Our playing staff has improved - even though some good players have been let go - but we are still doing badly - why?
The Manager has been supported financially and seems to get his way on most things but still we can't get it right.
Think about this - how many points would you have expected from the following games - West Brom (h), Bournemouth (h), West Ham (h), Burnley - I expected 7/8 points in all honesty - instead we have one point from those games and we have scored three goals and let in 6.
Just not good enough - and this against teams who we need to get points off.
I am convinced that AP will take us down if we are not careful.
Let's see what the Owners think.
PS - we will probably beat City in two weeks time - that would be just like CPFC!!

I never see other teams giving the ball away as much as we do. Surely ball retention is practiced in training!? Last few games I've watched us play I just end up shouting at the tv because we keep giving the ball away.

A shame to see so many personal insults flying around between fans who all want the best for the club.

Sam isn't the answer. Notwithstanding the fact that he is under investigation anyway.

Pards is definitely pushing his luck, but I don't think that changing now is the answer. I also think that there isn't an obvious replacement for him.