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Quote nickgusset at 17 Nov 2015 4.00pm
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Quote Southampton_Eagle at 17 Nov 2015 11.32am
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Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm
But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.
My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN. Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution! Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.
Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is. I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices. Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.
Get a life.
Anyways... from your tone it sounds like you should take a chill pill. Meanwhile, my offending post continues to get accolades from the free thinkers. Annoying isn't it? I still think your 'intern all muslims' remark is ridiculous. But you are entitled to that view, just as I am mine.
It would be impractical to intern them all anyway. My main thrust was to endorse the right of the government/MI6 to monitor all forms of communication to identify those who wish us harm. I have no problem with you airing your views nick...... none at all mate. Regards.
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Nov 2015 4.07pm
Quote nickgusset at 17 Nov 2015 4.00pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Nov 2015 3.35pm
Quote Southampton_Eagle at 17 Nov 2015 11.32am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Nov 2015 9.11am
Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am
Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm
But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.
My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN. Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution! Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.
Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is. I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices. Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.
Get a life.
Anyways... from your tone it sounds like you should take a chill pill. Meanwhile, my offending post continues to get accolades from the free thinkers. Annoying isn't it? I still think your 'intern all muslims' remark is ridiculous. But you are entitled to that view, just as I am mine.
It would be impractical to intern them all anyway. My main thrust was to endorse the right of the government/MI6 to monitor all forms of communication to identify those who wish us harm. I have no problem with you airing your views nick...... none at all mate. Regards.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Nov 15 4.26pm |
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An opinion worth a read
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| Lyons550 Shirley 17 Nov 15 5.07pm |
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This Muslim condemning those who carry out this shyte is quickly going viral....well said sir By the way NSFW as he gets pretty sweary!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Nov 15 5.10pm |
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This woman is priceless..
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 17 Nov 15 6.13pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 17 Nov 2015 4.26pm
An opinion worth a read A good read but one that only reinforces my belief that there is more to this whole situation than meets the eye.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Nov 15 6.26pm |
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Quote dannyh at 17 Nov 2015 1.13pm
So the slimey bearded tramp has finally made a comment about the mass slaughter of innocent civillians by saying he doesnt agree with a shoot to kill policy on terrorists . Corbyn you are an utter utter spinless wnaker. if I ever meet you in public please dont be offended if I tell you so. You pathetic apologist hangwringing tawtt.
Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2015 6.26pm)
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| Stirlingsays 17 Nov 15 6.37pm |
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After 7/7 a survey with British Muslims showed that 16 percent thought that the 7/7 attacks were wrong but the cause of the bombers was right. 13 percent thought the bombers should be considered martyrs. Compare this to the attitudes of other groups in Britain....Sorry it isn't good enough to ignore and cherry coat. It's common knowledge for balanced observers that in many Islamic countries tolerance for other religions or the western mindset is limited (outside of tourist areas). However, it's important to also acknowledge that the people leading the fight against IS on the ground are Muslims. Excepting the Kurds, who are as secular as you get for middle eastern Muslims, these Muslims may not exactly be western minded either.......But there is a big big gap between that and accepting the stone age rule of IS. I feel the real picture about Islamic sentiment isn't the simplistic pictures presented by the pro or the anti groups but somewhere in the middle. There is a problem within Islamic communities in this country and others and those who deny reality only worsen the problem and provide succor and cover. However it's also true that the majority reject anything to do with these animals and this must also be recognised. It isn't a simple picture.
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| Mr Palaceman 17 Nov 15 7.49pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Nov 2015 6.37pm
After 7/7 a survey with British Muslims showed that 16 percent though that the 7/7 attacks were wrong but the cause of the bombers was right. 13 percent though the bombers should be considered martyrs. Compare this to the attitudes of other groups in Britain....Sorry it isn't good enough to ignore and cherry coat. It's common knowledge for balanced observers that in many Islamic countries tolerance for other religions or the western mindset is limited (outside of tourist areas). However, it's important to also acknowledge that the people leading the fight against IS on the ground are Muslims. Excepting the Kurds, who are as secular as you get for middle eastern Muslims, these Muslims may not exactly be western minded either.......But there is a big big gap between that and accepting the stone age rule of IS. I feel the real picture about Islamic sentiment isn't the simplistic pictures presented by the pro or the anti groups but somewhere in the middle. There is a problem within Islamic communities in this country and others and those who deny reality only worsen the problem and provide succor and cover. However it's also true that the majority reject anything to do with these animals and this must also be recognised. It isn't a simple picture. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2015 7.05pm) A balanced post..
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| -TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 17 Nov 15 8.55pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Nov 2015 6.37pm
After 7/7 a survey with British Muslims showed that 16 percent though that the 7/7 attacks were wrong but the cause of the bombers was right. 13 percent though the bombers should be considered martyrs. Compare this to the attitudes of other groups in Britain....Sorry it isn't good enough to ignore and cherry coat. It's common knowledge for balanced observers that in many Islamic countries tolerance for other religions or the western mindset is limited (outside of tourist areas). However, it's important to also acknowledge that the people leading the fight against IS on the ground are Muslims. Excepting the Kurds, who are as secular as you get for middle eastern Muslims, these Muslims may not exactly be western minded either.......But there is a big big gap between that and accepting the stone age rule of IS. I feel the real picture about Islamic sentiment isn't the simplistic pictures presented by the pro or the anti groups but somewhere in the middle. There is a problem within Islamic communities in this country and others and those who deny reality only worsen the problem and provide succor and cover. However it's also true that the majority reject anything to do with these animals and this must also be recognised. It isn't a simple picture. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2015 7.05pm)
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 17 Nov 15 9.44pm |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 17 Nov 2015 2.42pm
Quote pefwin at 17 Nov 2015 2.27pm
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Nov 2015 10.45pm
Life experience. It's easy to be magnanimous when you are not directly affected.
That's original. A rather pathetic attempt at shutting down a debate.
Life experience, keyboard warriors just don't have cojones.
That's my whole point for you. Stop pretending that going to defend "us" from ISIL.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Nov 15 9.51pm |
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Quote -TUX- at 17 Nov 2015 8.55pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Nov 2015 6.37pm
After 7/7 a survey with British Muslims showed that 16 percent though that the 7/7 attacks were wrong but the cause of the bombers was right. 13 percent though the bombers should be considered martyrs. Compare this to the attitudes of other groups in Britain....Sorry it isn't good enough to ignore and cherry coat. It's common knowledge for balanced observers that in many Islamic countries tolerance for other religions or the western mindset is limited (outside of tourist areas). However, it's important to also acknowledge that the people leading the fight against IS on the ground are Muslims. Excepting the Kurds, who are as secular as you get for middle eastern Muslims, these Muslims may not exactly be western minded either.......But there is a big big gap between that and accepting the stone age rule of IS. I feel the real picture about Islamic sentiment isn't the simplistic pictures presented by the pro or the anti groups but somewhere in the middle. There is a problem within Islamic communities in this country and others and those who deny reality only worsen the problem and provide succor and cover. However it's also true that the majority reject anything to do with these animals and this must also be recognised. It isn't a simple picture. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2015 7.05pm)
Could the same be said about British Jews and Palestine?
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