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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 4.36pm
Originally posted by Matov So Desantis goes from a tiny % winning majority to 20%. Whilst the rest of the country appears to not share in this popularity for Republicans? If ever you wanted a set of mid-term results that probably keeps Trump from running again, this was them. Odd that. To be celebrated but not yet. Trump won't see it like that will he? Although it's suggested he hates losing even more than he likes the sound of his own voice. I hope he does run. As an independent after DeSantis gets the nomination. That would split the MAGA vote away from the GOP. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 4.36pm

Originally posted by Matov

So Desantis goes from a tiny % winning majority to 20%. Whilst the rest of the country appears to not share in this popularity for Republicans?

If ever you wanted a set of mid-term results that probably keeps Trump from running again, this was them.

Odd that.

To be celebrated but not yet.

Trump won't see it like that will he? Although it's suggested he hates losing even more than he likes the sound of his own voice.

I hope he does run. As an independent after DeSantis gets the nomination. That would split the MAGA vote away from the GOP.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 4.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I don't believe you. You receive negative responses from most of those you lecture on here. Due to your often expressed fear of physical confrontation, I highly doubt you would speak to those you disagree with in the same manner in which you write. I regard you as fundamentally dishonest....which is probably par for the course for an ex marketing manager. Not for the first time you insult me by calling me a liar. By far not for the first time, your are completely wrong. I am not afraid of physical confrontation. I don't think I am afraid of anything. Wary and watchful, yes, but afraid, no. I avoid physical confrontation primarily because it's degrading, I don't want anything to do with those who think that an argument can be won with violence. I left that all behind when I left school. I split a boy's nose very badly when in a boxing match and vowed never to put myself in that situation again. It upset me greatly. There were many bullies at my school who terrorised others who were brighter than them, simply because they could. That's no way to behave. So I don't behave like that. I walk away. If I am with someone I assess their mood and likely reaction before I speak. I can be gentle and diplomatic when needed, emphasising the positive and taking the listener with me. Corresponding online doesn't require that, so I can be more forthright when necessary. I suspect you only have one operating mode. Some of us are more nuanced than that! I expect the same old bs in return. I could write it myself you are so predictable. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Nov 2022 11.59am) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 4.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't believe you.

You receive negative responses from most of those you lecture on here. Due to your often expressed fear of physical confrontation, I highly doubt you would speak to those you disagree with in the same manner in which you write.

I regard you as fundamentally dishonest....which is probably par for the course for an ex marketing manager.

Not for the first time you insult me by calling me a liar.

By far not for the first time, your are completely wrong.

I am not afraid of physical confrontation. I don't think I am afraid of anything. Wary and watchful, yes, but afraid, no.

I avoid physical confrontation primarily because it's degrading, I don't want anything to do with those who think that an argument can be won with violence. I left that all behind when I left school. I split a boy's nose very badly when in a boxing match and vowed never to put myself in that situation again. It upset me greatly. There were many bullies at my school who terrorised others who were brighter than them, simply because they could. That's no way to behave. So I don't behave like that. I walk away.

If I am with someone I assess their mood and likely reaction before I speak. I can be gentle and diplomatic when needed, emphasising the positive and taking the listener with me. Corresponding online doesn't require that, so I can be more forthright when necessary.

I suspect you only have one operating mode. Some of us are more nuanced than that!

I expect the same old bs in return. I could write it myself you are so predictable.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Nov 2022 11.59am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 5.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Sure, I tend to go through periods of ignoring him and then have little bursts when I can be bothered to pull apart his nonsense. There are better posters than me who more regularly pick out the holes in his positions but, in my view, he's deliberate pushes buttons for these interactions as its part of his modus operandi.....As for why he seeks out demographics with polar opposite views to him one can only wonder. Think of it as my tiny contribution to ensuring the ridiculous right ( a much more accurate epithet than "dissident right) have their views, and where they come from, exposed to a few others who hold conservative views, but remain decent, open minded people. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 5.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sure, I tend to go through periods of ignoring him and then have little bursts when I can be bothered to pull apart his nonsense. There are better posters than me who more regularly pick out the holes in his positions but, in my view, he's deliberate pushes buttons for these interactions as its part of his modus operandi.....As for why he seeks out demographics with polar opposite views to him one can only wonder.

Think of it as my tiny contribution to ensuring the ridiculous right ( a much more accurate epithet than "dissident right) have their views, and where they come from, exposed to a few others who hold conservative views, but remain decent, open minded people.

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Stirlingsays 10 Nov 22 5.39pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Think of it as my tiny contribution to ensuring the ridiculous right ( a much more accurate epithet than "dissident right) have their views, and where they come from, exposed to a few others who hold conservative views, but remain decent, open minded people. It's news to me that I've ever been anything other than honest with my politics since I've been on Hol, from being a normie conservative to being on the dissident right now.....who apparently all agree on the same thing. I keep being told what I believe and what I want by progressive weirdos with their Nazi fantasies as if I'm hiding my actual positions and they are some exposer doing something important. I can't decide whether it's just basic Dunning-Kruger or just misplaced intellectual narcissism. The lack of self-awareness can be fun to read though. I've been called an activist to basically a Nazi by various progressives and a couple of centralists who really hated me there for some reason. In truth I'm just an ex teacher and white bloke who isn't in any group with no criminal record, occasionally letting off steam and bad jokes on the politics section of a football site of my team. That's about the nub of it. I really think some get grandiose ideas sometimes about their own importance and effect in the world. Like SW said and Teddy knows, none of this really matters, none of us move the needle on anything and all this commentary serves is for being for our own personal expression or mental and spelling exercise. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Nov 22 5.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's news to me that I've ever been anything other than honest with my politics since I've been on Hol, from being a normie conservative to being on the dissident right now.....who apparently all agree on the same thing.

I keep being told what I believe and what I want by progressive weirdos with their Nazi fantasies as if I'm hiding my actual positions and they are some exposer doing something important.

I can't decide whether it's just basic Dunning-Kruger or just misplaced intellectual narcissism. The lack of self-awareness can be fun to read though.

I've been called an activist to basically a Nazi by various progressives and a couple of centralists who really hated me there for some reason. In truth I'm just an ex teacher and white bloke who isn't in any group with no criminal record, occasionally letting off steam and bad jokes on the politics section of a football site of my team.

That's about the nub of it. I really think some get grandiose ideas sometimes about their own importance and effect in the world.

Like SW said and Teddy knows, none of this really matters, none of us move the needle on anything and all this commentary serves is for being for our own personal expression or mental and spelling exercise.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Teddy Eagle 10 Nov 22 5.59pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Your previous point (dross) was whatever is happening in the US, doesn't affect us. Well it does, rather obviously, for several equally obvious reasons. Anything posted on here falls into the category of 'why bother'. Not what was being discussed and not really that relevant TBH as it is also extremely obvious. It did amuse me though. Who's Dr Ross? That wasn't my point. It was however much anything in American politics rips your knitting there really isn't anything you or I can do about it. Unless we're working on the assumption that Trump is an avid reader of the HOL. Who knows? Maybe he was posting on here under a Maine alias.
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Teddy Eagle

10 Nov 22 5.59pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Your previous point (dross) was whatever is happening in the US, doesn't affect us. Well it does, rather obviously, for several equally obvious reasons.

Anything posted on here falls into the category of 'why bother'. Not what was being discussed and not really that relevant TBH as it is also extremely obvious. It did amuse me though.

Who's Dr Ross?
That wasn't my point. It was however much anything in American politics rips your knitting there really isn't anything you or I can do about it. Unless we're working on the assumption that Trump is an avid reader of the HOL. Who knows? Maybe he was posting on here under a Maine alias.

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Stirlingsays 10 Nov 22 6.00pm
PJW with a breakdown on what happened in the mid terms. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Nov 22 6.00pm

PJW with a breakdown on what happened in the mid terms.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 9.43pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It's news to me that I've ever been anything other than honest with my politics since I've been on Hol, from being a normie conservative to being on the dissident right now.....who apparently all agree on the same thing. I keep being told what I believe and what I want by progressive weirdos with their Nazi fantasies as if I'm hiding my actual positions and they are some exposer doing something important. I can't decide whether it's just basic Dunning-Kruger or just misplaced intellectual narcissism. The lack of self-awareness can be fun to read though. I've been called an activist to basically a Nazi by various progressives and a couple of centralists who really hated me there for some reason. In truth I'm just an ex teacher and white bloke who isn't in any group with no criminal record, occasionally letting off steam and bad jokes on the politics section of a football site of my team. That's about the nub of it. I really think some get grandiose ideas sometimes about their own importance and effect in the world. Like SW said and Teddy knows, none of this really matters, none of us move the needle on anything and all this commentary serves is for being for our own personal expression or mental and spelling exercise. You post this attempt at self justification for holding and relentlessly posting your unconventional ideas and then, just 21 minutes later post a link to Paul Joseph Watson. Watson, in case anyone is unfamiliar with him, is a fellow Brit, far right right conspiracy theorist who makes YouTube videos at home, of the kind referenced. If anyone doubted the kind of place where you draw your inspiration from, watch that video. It puts quite another face on the benign picture painted above. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 9.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I keep being told what I believe and what I want by progressive weirdos with their Nazi fantasies as if I'm hiding my actual positions and they are some exposer doing something important.

I can't decide whether it's just basic Dunning-Kruger or just misplaced intellectual narcissism. The lack of self-awareness can be fun to read though.

That's about the nub of it. I really think some get grandiose ideas sometimes about their own importance and effect in the world.

You post this attempt at self justification for holding and relentlessly posting your unconventional ideas and then, just 21 minutes later post a link to Paul Joseph Watson.

Watson, in case anyone is unfamiliar with him, is a fellow Brit, far right right conspiracy theorist who makes YouTube videos at home, of the kind referenced.

If anyone doubted the kind of place where you draw your inspiration from, watch that video. It puts quite another face on the benign picture painted above.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 10 Nov 22 9.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not for the first time you insult me by calling me a liar. By far not for the first time, your are completely wrong. I am not afraid of physical confrontation. I don't think I am afraid of anything. Wary and watchful, yes, but afraid, no. I avoid physical confrontation primarily because it's downgrading, I don't want anything to do with those who think that an argument can be won with violence. I left that all behind when I left school. I split a boy's nose very badly when in a boxing match and vowed never to put myself in that situation again. It upset me greatly. There were many bullies at my school who terrorised others who were brighter than them, simply because they could. That's no way to behave. So I don't behave like that. I walk away. If I am with someone I assess their mood and likely reaction before I speak. I can be gentle and diplomatic when needed, emphasising the positive and taking the listener with me. Corresponding online doesn't require that, so I can be more forthright when necessary. I suspect you only have one operating mode. Some of us are more nuanced than that! I expect the same old bs in return. I could write it myself you are so predictable. Responsibility Deficit Disorder Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 10 Nov 22 9.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not for the first time you insult me by calling me a liar.

By far not for the first time, your are completely wrong.

I am not afraid of physical confrontation. I don't think I am afraid of anything. Wary and watchful, yes, but afraid, no.

I avoid physical confrontation primarily because it's downgrading, I don't want anything to do with those who think that an argument can be won with violence. I left that all behind when I left school. I split a boy's nose very badly when in a boxing match and vowed never to put myself in that situation again. It upset me greatly. There were many bullies at my school who terrorised others who were brighter than them, simply because they could. That's no way to behave. So I don't behave like that. I walk away.

I suspect you only have one operating mode. Some of us are more nuanced than that!

I expect the same old bs in return. I could write it myself you are so predictable.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 10 Nov 22 10.24pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You post this attempt at self justification for holding and relentlessly posting your unconventional ideas and then, just 21 minutes later post a link to Paul Joseph Watson. Watson, in case anyone is unfamiliar with him, is a fellow Brit, far right right conspiracy theorist who makes YouTube videos at home, of the kind referenced. If anyone doubted the kind of place where you draw your inspiration from, watch that video. It puts quite another face on the benign picture painted above. You are an absurd joke. Something I'd happily say to your face. People should watch the video and then compare it to what this manlet says. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2022 10.25pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Nov 22 10.24pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You post this attempt at self justification for holding and relentlessly posting your unconventional ideas and then, just 21 minutes later post a link to Paul Joseph Watson.

Watson, in case anyone is unfamiliar with him, is a fellow Brit, far right right conspiracy theorist who makes YouTube videos at home, of the kind referenced.

If anyone doubted the kind of place where you draw your inspiration from, watch that video. It puts quite another face on the benign picture painted above.

You are an absurd joke.

Something I'd happily say to your face.

People should watch the video and then compare it to what this manlet says.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2022 10.25pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 10.37pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Responsibility Deficit Disorder As making cheap and nasty assertions seems to amuse you, I'll refrain from responding in kind. I don't want to amuse you Your comment is ridiculous. Even a professional psychiatrist, which I assume you aren't, wouldn't offer a diagnosis without a face to face consultation. Add to that as it apparently isn't actually a clinical category itself, but is thought to contribute to others that are, someone attempting an amateur diagnosis based on a few comments in a forum, makes them, and not the target for their insults, look really stupid. I had never heard the expression before, and bet you hadn't either, before you searched for something you could insult me with, based upon your own prejudicial opinion of my character. So I looked it up, and laughed out loud. You see, I know me. You don't. Nothing it describes fits me. But, of course, you know better, don't you? [Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 10.37pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Responsibility Deficit Disorder

As making cheap and nasty assertions seems to amuse you, I'll refrain from responding in kind. I don't want to amuse you

Your comment is ridiculous.

Even a professional psychiatrist, which I assume you aren't, wouldn't offer a diagnosis without a face to face consultation.

Add to that as it apparently isn't actually a clinical category itself, but is thought to contribute to others that are, someone attempting an amateur diagnosis based on a few comments in a forum, makes them, and not the target for their insults, look really stupid.

I had never heard the expression before, and bet you hadn't either, before you searched for something you could insult me with, based upon your own prejudicial opinion of my character.

So I looked it up, and laughed out loud. You see, I know me. You don't. Nothing it describes fits me. But, of course, you know better, don't you?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 10.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You are an absurd joke. Something I'd happily say to your face. People should watch the video and then compare it to what this manlet says. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2022 10.25pm) Oh they absolutely should watch it. They will hear his words and recognise your voice. Anyone who draws any kind of inspiration from, or has any sympathy for the views of, Paul Joseph Watson need to have their integrity put under the microscope. Anyone, like Watson, who works with, and supports, Alex Jones and InfoWars, ought not be given an ounce of respect. Alex Jones, and InfoWars, fleece the gullible. [Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 22 10.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are an absurd joke.

Something I'd happily say to your face.

People should watch the video and then compare it to what this manlet says.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Nov 2022 10.25pm)

Oh they absolutely should watch it.

They will hear his words and recognise your voice.

Anyone who draws any kind of inspiration from, or has any sympathy for the views of, Paul Joseph Watson need to have their integrity put under the microscope.

Anyone, like Watson, who works with, and supports, Alex Jones and InfoWars, ought not be given an ounce of respect. Alex Jones, and InfoWars, fleece the gullible.

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Stirlingsays 10 Nov 22 10.48pm
I don't think you hit a nerve Owen, more like exploded it with a shaped charge. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Nov 22 10.48pm

I don't think you hit a nerve Owen, more like exploded it with a shaped charge.

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