It is worrying because these doctors are getting themselves involved in what are essentially political decisions. I am forced to wonder if they have a MAGA baseball cap in their lockers.

If, for the sake of argument, their statistics are accepted as fact then their conclusions aren't, in my opinion.

This virus is not like the flu. It is much more contagious but even more importantly we don't have a vaccine for it. Without taking the measures we have the health care facilities would have been overwhelmed and many more deaths resulted. It's only because those measures were put in place that the doctors can report their statistics. Without them things would have been very different.

Of course more people are dying who have pre-existing conditions that increase the risk. That's totally obvious and to be expected. C19 is what tips many over the edge but it is still the cause of death, whether or not these doctors want to regard it as so. Some of those people might not have lived much longer anyway, but the fact remains that C19 was the final straw.

They are quite right to be worried about other health issues being made worse by our response to C19 and this needs to be addressed. Not though simply by abandoning the good work that has been done so far.

The vulnerable will need to continue to be protected until they can be vaccinated. Everyone else will need to practice social distancing to keep the infection rate within manageable limits.

I think their presentation could easily spark a bad situation in the USA. I hope it doesn't here although I see no prospect of the government agreeing with their conclusions.

What a pleasant individual.

Because being pleasant and nice today is more important than the truth.

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These funding links are not even hidden. Why is our national broadcaster being funded by foreign interests and supranational corrupt institutions like the UN? (which is in terms heavily influenced by likes of Qatar)

Just follow the money FFS

Nobody is saying this virus was deliberately spread by the way although at this point all bets are off.

I just love it how the libertarians and lefties play defense for neo conservatives and foreign powers with s***ty human right records. It's so f***ing dumb.

You can still be nice whilst telling the truth!

So here, very politely, is some truth for you.

Accusing people and organisations of unproven corruption can still be a conspiracy theory.

I have been told many times, mostly by my American friends, of these allegations involving Bill Gates, a variety of other players and the spread of C19 for devious purposes. Like you it seems they really believe it. Like most conspiracy theories it takes some established facts and then twists them into wild, and often ridiculous, conclusions.

So it is with this. This was alive back in January, before the pandemic had really caught fire. It's no wonder then that the conspiracy theory has caught fire too and is burning in the minds of the impressionable.

It has been debunked many times. Even in January the BBC published this:- [Link]

A conspiracy theorist will conclude that as it's the BBC, and they are "involved", they would say that!

I read the reasoning and conclude they are right.

I have heard countless conspiracy theories over the past 20 years.

I have yet to hear one that has proved to actually be true.