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 susmik  PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Jun 17 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What total and absolute bullsh1t and you know it... but there again with nothing between your ears I should have expected a stupid statement like that!
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
As you cannot scroll... police were found to be institionally racist in some places if I recall. Would you rather they were allowed to carry on as they were?
There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| Lyons550 Shirley 05 Jun 17 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be. Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile [Tweet Link]
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be. Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile [Tweet Link]Corbyn has never (in this election) gone for an ad hominem attack in his speeches. There have been several cases of May doing so.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities. So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hansy
Could that be because advisers to the Tories, believed that Cyber security needed more funds. Funding hasn't been cut and re-routed to May's back pockets, it had to be routed elsewhere; like the additional £1.9bn in cyber security spending announced in 2016. Or the £250m made available to Cyber Security start ups in 2015. Police numbers shouldn't be decreased, that I agree with. But I don't agree with 20,000 more police officers could of stopped someone acting alone and deciding to mow people down in the case of Westminster. It was rerouted to cuts in tax. The cuts have been ideological not an economic necessity. If that was the story it's not cutting through. More police would allow officers more time and resource to concentrate on responding to concerns from communities and monitoring people on their watch lists and ensuring their watch lists are as complete and appropriate as possible.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Jun 17 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities. The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police).
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by Hansy
That means it has been brought into account.... Magic money tree = Not being able to afford it, so unable to pass all on the manifesto. If I'd written "magic money tree" as an answer on one of my economics exams I would have earned very few marks.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault. Well, as I say, it is just another element in the mass of problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police). Sure there was, and no doubt still is, in those institutions and others. As I have said it is a feature of the problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police).
I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault. Childish drivel. Multi culture causes friction full stop. And large scale immigration causes a lot of it. A whole lot of the problem we face today are a result of mass immigration. It might have propped up our stagnating population and rescued a few pensions but the price had been too expensive.
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