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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 21 12.28pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
With respect, I don't view it in terms of 'Triumphalism', I am merely looking at the picture from different points of view.
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Eaglecoops CR3 25 Feb 21 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
I don’t think anyone would be to unhappy at the fact he has a naughty streak . If he can play, and the the more you see of this boy he can. Some of the very best midfielders throughout the years have not been angels. Luca, is all about braking play up , stopping movements from developing. Gallagher, will sit in and can do all of that , 100% this. Every team needs a no nonsense midfielder and I see a big future for this player. Our only chance of getting him IMO is if we go after him early, otherwise his home club may well bring him back to play for them. I suppose if worse came to worse we could send Bats back next year and take him on a years loan ourselves.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 21 12.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
100% this. Every team needs a no nonsense midfielder and I see a big future for this player. Our only chance of getting him IMO is if we go after him early, otherwise his home club may well bring him back to play for them. I suppose if worse came to worse we could send Bats back next year and take him on a years loan ourselves. I have been in recent discussions with a chap apropos Gallagher and we commented on the fact that he is no stranger to yellow cards having collected 20 since the start of last season. He comes from a family of Chelsea supporters and in the Chelsea academy, Gallagher,Brewster and Guehi were very good chums.
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rikz Croydon 25 Feb 21 1.30pm | |
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Not sure why people seem to think it's somewhat impossible to actually have a go in the majority of games and actually try to win. Leeds manage it, with a lesser squad and have more points, this is purely down to management. I dont think Roy has done a bad or good job but the last game I actually enjoyed was utd and that was the second game of the season ffs sick of all this talk about money and club infrastructure, the importance of remaining in the prem. First and foremost its a competitive sport and we should be competing to win, with maybe the exception of City and Liverpool away then you don't mind the manager looking for a draw. Well done to Roy for our "resilient" performance against Brighton when in reality we defended for our lives for 90 minutes and was very fortunate our strikers were as clinical as they've been. Plus like I've said regardless of if you support him or not, his age is a issue.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 21 1.57pm | |
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Originally posted by rikz
Not sure why people seem to think it's somewhat impossible to actually have a go in the majority of games and actually try to win. Leeds manage it, with a lesser squad and have more points, this is purely down to management. I dont think Roy has done a bad or good job but the last game I actually enjoyed was utd and that was the second game of the season ffs sick of all this talk about money and club infrastructure, the importance of remaining in the prem. First and foremost its a competitive sport and we should be competing to win, with maybe the exception of City and Liverpool away then you don't mind the manager looking for a draw. Well done to Roy for our "resilient" performance against Brighton when in reality we defended for our lives for 90 minutes and was very fortunate our strikers were as clinical as they've been. Plus like I've said regardless of if you support him or not, his age is a issue. With the passage of time,comes experience and Mr Hodgson has been in management for some 44 years.Let us not forget that Ray Lewington is also vastly experienced.
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PatrickA London 25 Feb 21 3.43pm | |
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I don’t see it in terms of triumphalism either. Originally posted by Willo
With respect, I don't view it in terms of 'Triumphalism', I am merely looking at the picture from different points of view.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 21 3.57pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I don’t see it in terms of triumphalism either. Nobody is above criticism least of all a cerebrally challenged chap like 'Yours Truly' ! With respect I have not suspended judgement on Mr Hodgson due to the fact that he has met his objectives. Supporters of teams lower down the pyramid who perhaps play more expansive games would really love to be in our position!
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TheBigToePunt 25 Feb 21 4.08pm | |
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Gallagher has promise, and a bit of fire in the belly it seems. In fact, he seemed to do something to invite the ire of our senior players when we won at West Brom this year judging by the unusually firm manner in which they put him back in his box. And back in his box he was very much placed, by the way. More relevant is that he is young, talented, English, and from the academy of a big club. He will therefore cost at least double what an established top flight journeyman pro would cost, probably far more than he could sensibly be worth right now, and be a pretty big gamble therefore. Chelsea, Liverpool etc are all aware of the value of a player who has their 'brand name' attached, and charge accordingly. These English kids from big clubs will only be allowed out to play if on loan, or if massive fees are paid. They never give them away cheap, even if they don't need them. See, Ibe, Solanke, Elliot, Loftus-Cheek, Abraham, Tomori etc. We might get him on loan. We will need to use loans well this summer if we are in fact going to present the manager (whoever it may be) with a very new look squad next year. I think Roy would like him actually...
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Putitout Oxford 25 Feb 21 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Gallagher has promise, and a bit of fire in the belly it seems. In fact, he seemed to do something to invite the ire of our senior players when we won at West Brom this year judging by the unusually firm manner in which they put him back in his box. And back in his box he was very much placed, by the way. More relevant is that he is young, talented, English, and from the academy of a big club. He will therefore cost at least double what an established top flight journeyman pro would cost, probably far more than he could sensibly be worth right now, and be a pretty big gamble therefore. Chelsea, Liverpool etc are all aware of the value of a player who has their 'brand name' attached, and charge accordingly. These English kids from big clubs will only be allowed out to play if on loan, or if massive fees are paid. They never give them away cheap, even if they don't need them. See, Ibe, Solanke, Elliot, Loftus-Cheek, Abraham, Tomori etc. We might get him on loan. We will need to use loans well this summer if we are in fact going to present the manager (whoever it may be) with a very new look squad next year. I think Roy would like him actually... What you set out there is very true. It’s very much a part of the conundrum that the club has to cope with if it truly wants a permanent place in the Premier, hopefully playing attractive to watch, flowing football.
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PatrickA London 25 Feb 21 6.16pm | |
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I have to acknowledge defeat Willo. Originally posted by Willo
Nobody is above criticism least of all a cerebrally challenged chap like 'Yours Truly' ! With respect I have not suspended judgement on Mr Hodgson due to the fact that he has met his objectives. Supporters of teams lower down the pyramid who perhaps play more expansive games would really love to be in our position!
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PatrickA London 25 Feb 21 6.33pm | |
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Although I'm preferred to concede defeat in your defence of Hodgson's Palace record, do you feel he was in even in the slightest, tiniest way culpable for England's embarrassing defeat to Iceland?I'm sure you will consider this objectively. Originally posted by PatrickA
I have to acknowledge defeat Willo.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 21 6.44pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Although I'm preferred to concede defeat in your defence of Hodgson's Palace record, do you feel he was in even in the slightest, tiniest way culpable for England's embarrassing defeat to Iceland?I'm sure you will consider this objectively. I know someone who knows Ray Lewington and they discussed the defeat some while ago.
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