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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Feb 17 9.28pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I'd be surprised if this is really the case. We have a massive issue in this country wherein we still hink of the working class as a load of bald white guys. But they reckon within about 10 years it will actually be majority non-white. Now obviously lots of people don't like that and are voting UKIP, but that's because they're racist. And I'm not saying that in an inflammatory way, I'm just stating it as a fact: if you don't like this country because it's becoming browner, then you are, by definition, a racist. Now do UKIP or the Tories care about that sizeable demographic of the working class? Like f*ck they do. I would still estimate that that group is still majoritally Labour. Just a guess. It's funny, because Labour will probably win in Stoke, and in Leigh, and then there'll have to be another argument made about why Corbyn should resign. UKIP are so incompetent, and Nuttall is such a bellend, that even Corbyn can beat them. I gotta say that brings a chuckle to my lips With all due respect. That is simplistic nonsense. Skin colour has virtually nothing to do with it. This is about self interest and a fear of perceived undesirable culture.
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Originally posted by serial thriller

I'd be surprised if this is really the case. We have a massive issue in this country wherein we still hink of the working class as a load of bald white guys. But they reckon within about 10 years it will actually be majority non-white. Now obviously lots of people don't like that and are voting UKIP, but that's because they're racist. And I'm not saying that in an inflammatory way, I'm just stating it as a fact: if you don't like this country because it's becoming browner, then you are, by definition, a racist.

Now do UKIP or the Tories care about that sizeable demographic of the working class? Like f*ck they do. I would still estimate that that group is still majoritally Labour. Just a guess.

It's funny, because Labour will probably win in Stoke, and in Leigh, and then there'll have to be another argument made about why Corbyn should resign. UKIP are so incompetent, and Nuttall is such a bellend, that even Corbyn can beat them. I gotta say that brings a chuckle to my lips

With all due respect. That is simplistic nonsense.

Skin colour has virtually nothing to do with it.
This is about self interest and a fear of perceived undesirable culture.

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matt_himself Matataland 17 Feb 17 6.28am
Jezza' latest 'satisfaction' polls: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 17 Feb 17 6.28am

Jezza' latest 'satisfaction' polls:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Hoof Hearted 17 Feb 17 12.30pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Jezza' latest 'satisfaction' polls: [Link] All Jezza needs to do now is to gurn his face as he eats a bacon sandwich, whilst tripping over and getting soaked on a beach when the tide is coming in, and then call a fat northern lifetime supporter of labour woman a bigot not realising he's miked up and we can all hear it! .... and Momentum etc will still vote for him as leader!
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Hoof Hearted 17 Feb 17 12.30pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Jezza' latest 'satisfaction' polls:

[Link]

All Jezza needs to do now is to gurn his face as he eats a bacon sandwich, whilst tripping over and getting soaked on a beach when the tide is coming in, and then call a fat northern lifetime supporter of labour woman a bigot not realising he's miked up and we can all hear it!

.... and Momentum etc will still vote for him as leader!

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matt_himself Matataland 26 Feb 17 10.08am
Champagne Shami is getting a kicking on Marr. She said that the Copeland defeat was the consitituenct 'rejecting the establishment'. They voted in a Tory MP! This is how to integrate with Labours core, 'working class' support: [Link] Cat Smith explains how finishing second was an 'incredible achievement' for Labour: [Link] Even Guardian columnists are asking him to go: [Link] However, I reject this talk. Be stoic, Jezza. Finish the job. Don't let others distract you. You know what is best and you are doing wonderful things at the moment for the future of this country by simply turning up for work. Thank you. Edited by matt_himself (26 Feb 2017 10.11am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 26 Feb 17 10.08am

Champagne Shami is getting a kicking on Marr.

She said that the Copeland defeat was the consitituenct 'rejecting the establishment'. They voted in a Tory MP!

This is how to integrate with Labours core, 'working class' support:

[Link]

Cat Smith explains how finishing second was an 'incredible achievement' for Labour:

[Link]

Even Guardian columnists are asking him to go:

[Link]

However, I reject this talk. Be stoic, Jezza. Finish the job. Don't let others distract you. You know what is best and you are doing wonderful things at the moment for the future of this country by simply turning up for work. Thank you.

Edited by matt_himself (26 Feb 2017 10.11am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Feb 17 10.42am
Corbyn fights back. [Link] We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 26 Feb 17 10.42am

Corbyn fights back.

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We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hoof Hearted 26 Feb 17 10.52am
Originally posted by matt_himself However, I reject this talk. Be stoic, Jezza. Finish the job. Don't let others distract you. You know what is best and you are doing wonderful things at the moment for the future of this country by simply turning up for work. Thank you. Worry ye not Sir Matt. Jezza will not be resigning any time soon, and neither will there be another leadership challenge according to his deputy Tom Watson... [Link] Great news for the country.... I am doing cartwheels despite my Parky and arthritic knee joints!
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Hoof Hearted 26 Feb 17 10.52am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Worry ye not Sir Matt.

Jezza will not be resigning any time soon, and neither will there be another leadership challenge according to his deputy Tom Watson...

[Link]

Great news for the country.... I am doing cartwheels despite my Parky and arthritic knee joints!

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Feb 17 1.46pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Corbyn fights back. [Link] Is this idiot for REAL????? Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Feb 17 1.46pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Corbyn fights back.

[Link]

Is this idiot for REAL?????

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Feb 17 1.52pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Worry ye not Sir Matt. Jezza will not be resigning any time soon, and neither will there be another leadership challenge according to his deputy Tom Watson... [Link] Great news for the country.... I am doing cartwheels despite my Parky and arthritic knee joints! Let him stay leader of the Labour party for years to come and give the country chance to get Brexit over with and get stability back after the mess boy Blair made with his cronies for which we are paying for now. With Jeremy at their helm they have not the slightest chance of ever getting into power I say keep him as their leader. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Feb 17 1.52pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Worry ye not Sir Matt.

Jezza will not be resigning any time soon, and neither will there be another leadership challenge according to his deputy Tom Watson...

[Link]

Great news for the country.... I am doing cartwheels despite my Parky and arthritic knee joints!

Let him stay leader of the Labour party for years to come and give the country chance to get Brexit over with and get stability back after the mess boy Blair made with his cronies for which we are paying for now.
With Jeremy at their helm they have not the slightest chance of ever getting into power I say keep him as their leader.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Feb 17 4.34pm
Labour's problems are not just Corbyn. The attached article is a bit over the top, but is substantially true. [Link] We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 26 Feb 17 4.34pm

Labour's problems are not just Corbyn. The attached article is a bit over the top, but is substantially true.
[Link]

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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leifandersonshair Newport 26 Feb 17 4.37pm
Originally posted by susmik Let him stay leader of the Labour party for years to come and give the country chance to get Brexit over with and get stability back after the mess boy Blair made with his cronies for which we are paying for now. With Jeremy at their helm they have not the slightest chance of ever getting into power I say keep him as their leader. Yep, unchallenged Tory hard Brexit will definitely be in the national interest
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Originally posted by susmik

Yep, unchallenged Tory hard Brexit will definitely be in the national interest

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Feb 17 9.02pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Labour's problems are not just Corbyn. The attached article is a bit over the top, but is substantially true. [Link] Funnily enough listening to the radio earlier today, a Corbyn fan was banging on about the working class and it dawned on me that they have no real idea who the not so new "working class, are or what their aspirations are. Tories under Maggie, for all their faults, made you believe you could do or be anything you wanted. Not something the hard left seem to get. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 26 Feb 17 9.02pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Labour's problems are not just Corbyn. The attached article is a bit over the top, but is substantially true.
[Link]

Funnily enough listening to the radio earlier today, a Corbyn fan was banging on about the working class and it dawned on me that they have no real idea who the not so new "working class, are or what their aspirations are.

Tories under Maggie, for all their faults, made you believe you could do or be anything you wanted. Not something the hard left seem to get.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Feb 17 10.36pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Funnily enough listening to the radio earlier today, a Corbyn fan was banging on about the working class and it dawned on me that they have no real idea who the not so new "working class, are or what their aspirations are. Tories under Maggie, for all their faults, made you believe you could do or be anything you wanted. Not something the hard left seem to get. I think the working class are much better off than they used to be in previous generations, ironically, largely due to the efforts of trade unions and the labour movement. However, they are now more concerned with paying their mortgage, keeping a job and maintaining their relatively good standard of living for their families. They are not too worried about looking after refugees, or having mass immigration that adversely affects their wages, job security and changes their home towns, or Palestine, or LGBT rights, or most of the other priorities of the Labour Party. They see the Conservatives under Theresa May as a better option to protect their interests. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 26 Feb 17 10.36pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Tories under Maggie, for all their faults, made you believe you could do or be anything you wanted. Not something the hard left seem to get.

I think the working class are much better off than they used to be in previous generations, ironically, largely due to the efforts of trade unions and the labour movement. However, they are now more concerned with paying their mortgage, keeping a job and maintaining their relatively good standard of living for their families. They are not too worried about looking after refugees, or having mass immigration that adversely affects their wages, job security and changes their home towns, or Palestine, or LGBT rights, or most of the other priorities of the Labour Party. They see the Conservatives under Theresa May as a better option to protect their interests.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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