Neither of the main parties have sensible ways of picking their leaders. The Tories rely on 160,000 party members most of whom are elderly buffoons whilst Labour rely on the Trade Unions and their block votes.

If Labour had a more democratic approach they would have appointed the right Miliband as leader and would probably have then won the next General Election and remained in power ever since.

What needs to happen now is for the 1922 committee to change the rules limiting the election of the leader to Conservative MPs so that Truss can be replaced painlessly and quickly before she is allowed to inflict more damage on the country

Neither of the main parties have sensible ways of picking their leaders. The Tories rely on 160,000 party members most of whom are elderly buffoons whilst Labour rely on the Trade Unions and their block votes.

If Labour had a more democratic approach they would have appointed the right Miliband as leader and would probably have then won the next General Election and remained in power ever since.

What needs to happen now is for the 1922 committee to change the rules limiting the election of the leader to Conservative MPs so that Truss can be replaced painlessly and quickly before she is allowed to inflict more damage on the country

Hang on, was it not the MPs who actually voted it down to the two finalists?
Whilst at the same time knowing that party members would have the final vote!

Why not do away with voting altogether? After all it was the pesky voters who voted for Brexit and then Johnson in 2019? Why not just let the current crop of MP's decide everything for us?

Our job is to vote to choose our MP. Once done their job is to represent us. Every 5 years we can vote to change them, if we don't like the decisions they take.

Both the Conservative and Labour Parties are primarily funded by those people you are so disparaging of. Should they continue to just fund these MP's with no say in how they are led?

Or should we let both parties just receive donations from Corporations? Or countries like Saudi Arabia?

No. We should fund them. No-one else should have any influence over those who represent us.

What on earth is happening to our political system when people don't seem to care that a Prime Minister can effectively be told what to do by financial institutions? Who can be told to sack people who want to lower taxes and people seem to think that is a good thing?

The "financial institutions" aren't doing anything other than taking action to protect their stakeholders. If no action was needed, nothing would happen.

We do not living in a functioning Parliamentary democracy anymore. We are literally ruled now by people with no stake in the UK's future beyond lining their pockets?

As it looks as though the fact that Parliament's control over government, and not the reverse, is about to be restated, the functioning of our democracy seems to be becoming healthier.

Within 5 years we will be back in the EU. Not to make it a success but because the people pulling the strings in Washington want us on the inside, f***ing it up. The UK is on the side of people who destroy Europes power infrastructure by blowing up pipelines in the Baltic sea.. People who seek to extend and expand a war that see's Europeans killing each other. People who want to see Europe flooded with migrants, just like they do the US.

We should never have left the EU! It was always a crazy decision, as a consequence of other crazy decisions. "Washington" has enough turmoil of it's own to be involving itself with us. I won't bother with the other fantasies. Their nonsense speaks for itself.

Your vote means less than nothing now. Purely illusional. You might not like Liz Truss. Personally, I despise every current MP with almost no exceptions. But to see a British Prime Minister of less than two months, who got the job based on an accepted way of doing so, being forced out because of foreign based (in the main) financial speculators is beyond disgusting.

It's beginning to look as if our MPs are finally finding the means to actually do what they ought to do. They bottled it over Brexit. Let's hope they don't with this. That you might accept this way doesn't make it right, or unchangeable.

And loads of you seem to be cheering it on.

No-one's cheering. These last months have seen the nadir of our politics. What is now being felt is hope. Any cheering will only happen if it's fulfilled.

Edited by Matov (15 Oct 2022 7.17am)

There was a large amount of tactical voting involved. Which looks like it misfired.

All true and what I have been arguing for a while now. Let's see if our resident Tory party member agrees and/or has the courage to admit he was wrong and is prepared to do something about it.

The government could do us all a favour by commissioning a report into the way political parties are funded, and how they choose their leaders, with a remit to recommend recommendations for change to be implemented legally. That might restore some integrity. as well as enabling Labour to modernise.

Whilst the current way might have served the conditions of the past, it no longer serves us.