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Stirlingsays 19 Oct 23 4.51pm | |
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Well, it's about where your genetics come from.....they have to come from that region and that can be proven or disproven by a simple biological sample. The religion you stamp on them is for that individual....or imprinted on them anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2023 4.54pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Oct 23 8.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The apologist for Russia on these pages is posting ever more nonsensical ideas. Just because most Russians and Uranians share an ethnicity means nothing if their aspirations and politics aren’t aligned. Even less so with us. We couldn’t trust the Russians under Putin if they were situated in Calais. The idea that there is a bond between “white” people in Europe which transcends politics, attitudes and behaviour is what I think lies behind this. I believe this is not just nonsense, it’s highly objectionable dangerous nonsense. The logic of thinking this way would have seen us refusing to fight the Nazis. For me being British has nothing to do with ethnicity. If you have the passport, accept the standards, abide by the law, treasure the heritage and respect your fellow citizens then your can be as British as me, whatever ethnicity you happen to have. We know Wisbech. We know. By that measure, no one should have a genetic identity and no ethnicity should be allowed to claim a country for itself. Would you tell a Chinese that you have a Chinese passport, so you are now Chinese? Your reasoning is absurd. Sure, you can have a British passport, but that doesn't make you a Northern European or British in the genetic sense. If you expand your logic, then consider Black lives matter. What that all about then? You are an apologist for this organisation, and yet you would despise any group that had 'White' in the title.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Oct 23 9.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We know Wisbech. We know. By that measure, no one should have a genetic identity and no ethnicity should be allowed to claim a country for itself. Would you tell a Chinese that you have a Chinese passport, so you are now Chinese? Your reasoning is absurd. Sure, you can have a British passport, but that doesn't make you a Northern European or British in the genetic sense. If you expand your logic, then consider Black lives matter. What that all about then? You are an apologist for this organisation, and yet you would despise any group that had 'White' in the title.
Firstly I am not, and never have been, an apologist for “Black Lives Matter”. I understand why such slogans exist but the organisation which uses the words has a political outlook I don’t share. There are better ways to draw attention to inequality. You are seriously confused. Being British ONLY demands you hold a British passport. British is a statement of nationality. Nothing else. It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or genetics. Race and ethnicity are social constructs. Genetics play no role in determining either. Your attitude is extremely outdated. The understanding of these issues moved on well beyond them some time ago. If your intransigence and prejudices allow you to study this objectively then I suggest you read the following. They are long, complicated reads which necessitate time and effort be devoted to them before understanding can follow.
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Oct 23 10.34am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Firstly I am not, and never have been, an apologist for “Black Lives Matter”. I understand why such slogans exist but the organisation which uses the words has a political outlook I don’t share. There are better ways to draw attention to inequality. You are seriously confused. Being British ONLY demands you hold a British passport. British is a statement of nationality. Nothing else. It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or genetics. Race and ethnicity are social constructs. Genetics play no role in determining either. Your attitude is extremely outdated. The understanding of these issues moved on well beyond them some time ago. If your intransigence and prejudices allow you to study this objectively then I suggest you read the following. They are long, complicated reads which necessitate time and effort be devoted to them before understanding can follow. You are at your most tedious when you try to swerve the obvious. As we have seen in recent years, so called science is being corrupted by woke politics. Most people in Britain are predominantly English/North West European with a smattering of other genes. So how about your Chinese passport? Would you claim to be Chinese?
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Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 11.56am | |
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The west is losing hegemony in the world because of the systems and direction our elites have chosen compared to the wiser past. Ask ourselves what was the main selling point of the west? Freedom. Both economic and social. Even under the far more socially conservative west of the past the west had freedoms not comparable to anywhere else. Now the world looks at the west and sees the ending of liberty replaced with the promotion of fetish and has started to turn away.
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Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 12.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are at your most tedious when you try to swerve the obvious. As we have seen in recent years, so called science is being corrupted by woke politics. Most people in Britain are predominantly English/North West European with a smattering of other genes. So how about your Chinese passport? Would you claim to be Chinese? He's a broken record and not worth the engagement. The only good thing is that his luxury belief worldview is rapidly being rejected.....the only negative to that is why....and it's because the realities of it are being faced by more and more people. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2023 12.02pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Oct 23 12.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He's a broken record and not worth the engagement. The only good thing is that his luxury belief worldview is rapidly being rejected.....the only negative to that is why....and it's because the realities of it are being faced by more and more people. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2023 12.02pm) I believe so. The frogs are starting to feel the heat.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 23 10.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are at your most tedious when you try to swerve the obvious. As we have seen in recent years, so called science is being corrupted by woke politics. Most people in Britain are predominantly English/North West European with a smattering of other genes. So how about your Chinese passport? Would you claim to be Chinese? You at your most obdurate when you refuse to acknowledge that science continues to reveal and destroy long held incorrect opinions. You and your mentor hold views that are past their use by date. Science is not, and cannot be, corrupted by “woke” or anything else. Science is science. It has to be peer reviewed before it even gets published. If you bothered to actually read the links I provided you would understand that what you claim is complete nonsense. Genes have nothing whatsoever to do with race or ethnicity. That is a fact. Race and ethnicity are social and cultural constructs which can alter over time and be adopted by people and accepted by others in time. Nothing in this arena are set in stone. It’s protecting and nurturing our social and cultural heritage which is important. Not the genes. Should I hold a Chinese passport, live in China and be married to a lady born there then I would indeed claim to be Chinese. Whether others would accept yet that is another question but my grandchildren would definitely be, if they grew up there. Those who hold South African passports have both African and European heritages. They seem to have worked things out rather better than it once looked they would.
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Teddy Eagle 20 Oct 23 10.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You at your most obdurate when you refuse to acknowledge that science continues to reveal and destroy long held incorrect opinions. You and your mentor hold views that are past their use by date. Science is not, and cannot be, corrupted by “woke” or anything else. Science is science. It has to be peer reviewed before it even gets published. If you bothered to actually read the links I provided you would understand that what you claim is complete nonsense. Genes have nothing whatsoever to do with race or ethnicity. That is a fact. Race and ethnicity are social and cultural constructs which can alter over time and be adopted by people and accepted by others in time. Nothing in this arena are set in stone. It’s protecting and nurturing our social and cultural heritage which is important. Not the genes. Should I hold a Chinese passport, live in China and be married to a lady born there then I would indeed claim to be Chinese. Whether others would accept yet that is another question but my grandchildren would definitely be, if they grew up there. Those who hold South African passports have both African and European heritages. They seem to have worked things out rather better than it once looked they would. Indeed. South Africa has long been a byword for integrated peace and harmony.
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Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 10.35pm | |
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Someone can claim to be a cat and can claim to be a frog. Someone can claim to be a Martian.....I don't believe there was ever a law against it. However, if someone moves to China and marries a Chinese bird then their claim to be Chinese wouldn't be recognised by either the state or any other institution.....It's written into law. For them you need at least fifty percent genetics for that. They aren't stupid. They saw his type coming a long time ago.
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Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 10.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Indeed. South Africa has long been a byword for integrated peace and harmony. And economic decline....and it's not difficult to chart the progress of when that happened.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 23 11.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Indeed. South Africa has long been a byword for integrated peace and harmony. No it hasn’t but it is a lot better now than it looked as though it was going to be at one time, not so long ago. What it proves is that given a chance people can find a way past any prejudices that have been passed down to them. Their journey is not complete, but it is on the way.
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