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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 17 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

That's just the latest in a line of promises from a party that is too ashamed to show its racist roots.

My answer equates to "Roughly spherical and there are two of them".

Desperate 'Lefties' propogating palpable tosh and demeaning the HOL.

On that note I shall soon be departing for a tipple or two with those who engage in facts and not fantasy.

Edited by Willo (08 Jul 2017 7.37pm)

 

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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 08 Jul 17 7.35pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

this generation of kids will be the first to be worse off than their parents. Not something to be proud of is it. And why are they going to be worse off? Because they've been screwed by neoliberalism.

Comparing what it was like to be poor in the past to now is just excusing the fact we have many poor people - a lot of who work.


A lot of people these days are "poor" because they cannot budget either because they do not want to or have never been taught values. The youth of today are in a rut I am sorry to say and its not really their fault as their parents have no values themselves and cannot budget. They all want the latest mobile phone, Sky TV, a car, they smoke and they drink. Some do drugs which makes their situation ever worse. They do not realise that if they sat down and looked at what money was coming in and what they spent/wasted it on then they might just switch on that they really do need to tone down their want want want attitude. They then might see that a home of their own is feasible and not out of reach. Most of us have a roof over our heads and pay our bills when they are due, not like some who just get paid and piss it against the wall and have a great time. and find their food cupboard empty and a pile of bills on the table waiting to be paid.
I fully appreciate that some people are restricted in pay rises because of the 1% pay increase lock, I know as I am one who is in the same boat but you do not see me rushing down to the food bank as some nurses are supposed to be doing. They tried that ruse here in Plymouth and it was found that the reason a couple of them went there was because they had wasted their wages on having fun and were hungry. This is even tough they are on good money anyway. I know people who have really low wages down here but they feed themselves, their kids and pay all their bills because they budget correctly and do not buy things they know they cannot afford and their homes are clean and well kept. This must tell you something about the moaners who waste their dole money and have nothing and just complain that society is letting them down. When in fact if they got off their arses and got a job they might just become a respectable citizen paying their way and holding their heads up.
Youngsters need to be taught that nothing in life is for nothing and that you have to earn your way through life and it will then earn you some respect for yourself.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 08 Jul 17 7.36pm

Originally posted by Willo

My answer equates to "Roughly spherical and there are two of them".

Desperate 'Lefties' propogating palpable tosh and demeaning the HOL.

Ah the argument of reason. At least no denial.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jul 17 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

this generation of kids will be the first to be worse off than their parents. Not something to be proud of is it. And why are they going to be worse off? Because they've been screwed by neoliberalism.

Comparing what it was like to be poor in the past to now is just excusing the fact we have many poor people - a lot of who work.

No, it is stating a reality about so called poverty.

It's a rubbish socialist argument just like the stupid crap about the NHS being sold off.
Labour always leave the country and the majority of working people worse off while only the unemployed and minority interests benefit.


 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 17 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Ah the argument of reason. At least no denial.

My retort was a firm denial.
Shame you didn't see it - this is a problem for you and not me.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 7.52pm

Originally posted by Willo

Manifesto launch in May and it is just into July.So Theresa May has failed in her promise to bring down immigration ?

This is just pathetic and a desperate attempt to keep pace with the debate.You are treading water like a pedalo fighting the tide.

[Link] the Spectator on treezy as home sec.

From wiki


In 2010, May promised to bring the level of net migration down to less than 100,000.[73] In February 2015, The Independent reported, "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) announced a net flow of 298,000 migrants to the UK in the 12 months to September 2014—up from 210,000 in the previous year."[74] In total, 624,000 people migrated to the UK in the year ending September 2014 and 327,000 left in the same period. Statistics showed "significant increases in migration among both non-EU citizens – up 49,000 to 292,000 – and EU citizens, which rose by 43,000 to 251,000."[74]
[Link] citations included.
Sorry I had to 'trawl' to debunk your counter argument.

I'd say May's promise to reduce immigration has resoundingly failed. Despite actual facts, you do not.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 7.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No, it is stating a reality about so called poverty.

It's a rubbish socialist argument just like the stupid crap about the NHS being sold off.
Labour always leave the country and the majority of working people worse off while only the unemployed and minority interests benefit.


You can't help mention labour yet still haven't mentioned Treez.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jul 17 8.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


[Link] the Spectator on treezy as home sec.

From wiki

In 2010, May promised to bring the level of net migration down to less than 100,000.[73] In February 2015, The Independent reported, "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) announced a net flow of 298,000 migrants to the UK in the 12 months to September 2014—up from 210,000 in the previous year."[74] In total, 624,000 people migrated to the UK in the year ending September 2014 and 327,000 left in the same period. Statistics showed "significant increases in migration among both non-EU citizens – up 49,000 to 292,000 – and EU citizens, which rose by 43,000 to 251,000."[74]
[Link] citations included.
Sorry I had to 'trawl' to debunk your counter argument.

I'd say May's promise to reduce immigration has resoundingly failed. Despite actual facts, you do not.

But you think immigration is the best thing since sliced bread, so why are you complaining?

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 17 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

[Link] the Spectator on treezy as home sec.

From wiki


In 2010, May promised to bring the level of net migration down to less than 100,000.[73] In February 2015, The Independent reported, "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) announced a net flow of 298,000 migrants to the UK in the 12 months to September 2014—up from 210,000 in the previous year."[74] In total, 624,000 people migrated to the UK in the year ending September 2014 and 327,000 left in the same period. Statistics showed "significant increases in migration among both non-EU citizens – up 49,000 to 292,000 – and EU citizens, which rose by 43,000 to 251,000."[74]
[Link] citations included.
Sorry I had to 'trawl' to debunk your counter argument.

I'd say May's promise to reduce immigration has resoundingly failed. Despite actual facts, you do not.

I think you will find it was David Cameron who was PM at the time NOT Theresa May.Collective Cabinet responsibility and all that.Things have moved on since then.

Of course pending Brexit negotiations, the manifesto mentioned bringing immigration down to sustainable levels so Theresa May as PM should be judged on this NOT going back to 2010 !

Now out with my wife. Have a good evening 'Gusseting'.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 08 Jul 17 8.05pm

Originally posted by Willo

My retort was a firm denial.
Shame you didn't see it - this is a problem for you and not me.

I thought it solely an insult.

How did I fail to recognise such limitless wit, I can see why you are the thrall of JRM.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 17 8.06pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

But you think immigration is the best thing since sliced bread, so why are you complaining?

It's completely evident you haven't read the last few exchanges between myself and willo.
good work.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 08 Jul 17 8.07pm

Originally posted by Willo

I think you will find it was David Cameron who was PM at the time NOT Theresa May.

With 317 MPs I suppose you get 317 chances.

 


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