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Southern Rail Strike - right or wrong
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 steph_eagle  Thornton Heath 12 Dec 16 2.11pm |
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Ok so can someone answer me a question. It was stated that it is illegal to picket at stations however it was also stated that they picket certain stations, is it legal or not? Sorry if I'm being stupid.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Dec 16 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Is there any unbiased confirmation of this at all,if it's right then southern or who ever they call themselves should have the franchise taken off them immediately. Some might say ITV is biased towards those bleeding foreigners though, eh Hrolf.
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 7mins In the bush 12 Dec 16 2.36pm |
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Originally posted by steph_eagle
Ok so can someone answer me a question. It was stated that it is illegal to picket at stations however it was also stated that they picket certain stations, is it legal or not? Sorry if I'm being stupid. Where Southern have depots that the strikers work at, they can strike. Depots are: Vic I think legally there might be a injunction about picketing at Victoria. Something to do with Gatwick ex drivers.
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| steph_eagle Thornton Heath 12 Dec 16 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Where Southern have depots that the strikers work at, they can strike. Depots are: Vic I think legally there might be a injunction about picketing at Victoria. Something to do with Gatwick ex drivers. Ok, thanks.
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Kermit8  Hevon 12 Dec 16 2.43pm |
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If this is going the way things went a few decades back re: strikes, and if it is the Government pulling Govias/Southern's management strings and upping the ante- to ensure conflict by pulling out of talks and 'sabotaging' services, then the next stage would normally be to get massed ranks of police involved to up it even further via fisticuffs. Maggie was clever in her vindictiveness. She got the police on her side and increased their numbers before going to industrial war unlike this absolute shower of sh1te in power at the moment who haven't got the brain power to handle this effectively and it is showing. Feel sorry for all involved 'cept the management and politicians and any union agents provocateurs if any. Looks like it will be getting worse before it gets better which seems to be exactly what some suits want. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Dec 2016 2.43pm)
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| 7mins In the bush 12 Dec 16 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If this is going the way things went a few decades back re: strikes, and if it is the Government pulling Govias/Southern's management strings and upping the ante- to ensure conflict by pulling out of talks and 'sabotaging' services, then the next stage would normally be to get massed ranks of police involved to up it even further via fisticuffs. Maggie was clever in her vindictiveness. She got the police on her side and increased their numbers before going to industrial war unlike this absolute shower of sh1te in power at the moment who haven't got the brain power to handle this effectively and it is showing. Feel sorry for all involved 'cept the management and politicians and any union agents provocateurs if any. Looks like it will be getting worse before it gets better which seems to be exactly what some suits want. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Dec 2016 2.43pm)
I see that the unions got hold of more internal memos regarding Southern deliberately cancelling trains when crew available.... that manager who released it better be careful, he/she is being hunted.
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| elgrande bedford 12 Dec 16 2.55pm |
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Why are union leaders on over 100k a year,and when they call a strike do they still get paid.?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Dec 16 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Why are union leaders on over 100k a year,and when they call a strike do they still get paid.? Always had a bit of a problem with union leaders' salaries. But just because they get paid loads, it doesn't mean that concerns and issues raised by unions are less valid. don't forget, members vote whether to strike or not.
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| elgrande bedford 12 Dec 16 3.28pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Always had a bit of a problem with union leaders' salaries. But just because they get paid loads, it doesn't mean that concerns and issues raised by unions are less valid. don't forget, members vote whether to strike or not. But why do they earn so much....would have thought they should be on the same monies that the people they represent earn.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Dec 16 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
But why do they earn so much....would have thought they should be on the same monies that the people they represent earn. Head of a large organisation innit. Couldyou imagine a ceo earning the same as one of their gonks?
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| Stuk Top half 12 Dec 16 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
But why do they earn so much....would have thought they should be on the same monies that the people they represent earn. I couldn't give a crap how much of their money they waste on the dickheads in charge of them. What I can't stand is that they get funding from the government and the EU and that government or civil service employees who do union work, do it at the taxpayers expense too. They should be entirely self-funded, and if they were there wouldn't be about 6 different unions representing the same line of work. And of course the union leaders get paid during a strike.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Dec 16 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I couldn't give a crap how much of their money they waste on the dickheads in charge of them. What I can't stand is that they get funding from the government and the EU and that government or civil service employees who do union work, do it at the taxpayers expense too. They should be entirely self-funded, and if they were there wouldn't be about 6 different unions representing the same line of work. And of course the union leaders get paid during a strike. Funding facilities time actually saves loads of money. As well as making a significant contribution to increasing productivity they make workplaces safer, reduce the costs of recruitment and help business became more responsive to change by helping staff acquire new skills in addition to updating Savings to employers and the exchequer of between £22m - Benefits to society worth between £136m - £371m as a result of reducing working days lost due to workplace injury Benefits to society worth between £45m - £207m as a result of reducing work related illness. Overall productivity gains worth between £4bn to 12bn to the UK economy; Savings of at least £19 million as a result of Savings to employers of between £82m - £143m in recruitment costs as a result of reducing early exits
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