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Pussay Patrol  04 May 15 9.47pm |
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I just saw the awful Labour PP Broadcast by Steve Coogan. I thought he was better than that. Is Millibland that unpopular they have to get celebs in?
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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 15 10.01pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
The "Soothsayer" with his "Font of future" knowledge would probably agree that if the SNP help Labour into power, our economic recovery would grind to a halt. The SNP would hold Ed Miliband to ransom every time there is a vote - demanding more borrowing and higher taxes to pay for more welfare.
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| lankygit Lincoln 04 May 15 10.08pm |
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 04 May 2015 9.47pm
I just saw the awful Labour PP Broadcast by Steve Coogan. I thought he was better than that. Is Millibland that unpopular they have to get celebs in?
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| lankygit Lincoln 04 May 15 10.10pm |
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Quote Willo at 04 May 2015 10.01pm
Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
The "Soothsdayer" with his "Font of future" knowledge would probably agree that if the SNP help Labour into power, our economic recovery would grind to a halt. The SNP would hold Ed Miliband to ransom every time there is a vote - demanding more borrowing and higher taxes to pay for more welfare.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 15 10.14pm |
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Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 10.10pm
Quote Willo at 04 May 2015 10.01pm
Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
The "Soothsdayer" with his "Font of future" knowledge would probably agree that if the SNP help Labour into power, our economic recovery would grind to a halt. The SNP would hold Ed Miliband to ransom every time there is a vote - demanding more borrowing and higher taxes to pay for more welfare.
On every vote, the SNP will make demands - for more borrowing, more debt and more taxes. Ed Miliband will be kept on life support by the SNP for an entire parliament and hardworking families across Britain will pay for it.
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| elgrande bedford 04 May 15 10.22pm |
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Ed Balls is a bit like the Labour gov,writing cheques that they can't cash. And you lot want that man in charge of our economy.
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| lankygit Lincoln 04 May 15 10.23pm |
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Quote Willo at 04 May 2015 10.14pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 10.10pm
Quote Willo at 04 May 2015 10.01pm
Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
The "Soothsdayer" with his "Font of future" knowledge would probably agree that if the SNP help Labour into power, our economic recovery would grind to a halt. The SNP would hold Ed Miliband to ransom every time there is a vote - demanding more borrowing and higher taxes to pay for more welfare.
On every vote, the SNP will make demands - for more borrowing, more debt and more taxes. Ed Miliband will be kept on life support by the SNP for an entire parliament and hardworking families across Britain will pay for it. You really do need to keep up Willo, though I concede you may have missed this whilst out canvassing. edit. spelling mistake
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| elgrande bedford 04 May 15 10.24pm |
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And just to add to that,I have always voted tory, but don't think I will this time. Would not trust any of them as far as i could spit them.
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 May 15 10.29pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.38pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 8.28pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.24pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 7.56pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 7.15pm
The fact that the Tories are bit too left wing for my liking, and have a bunch of spineless t***s running the show, pales into insignificance compared to this and actual makes me think that voting Tory is a good idea: I respect Russ, and that just reinforces my decision to vote Labour. He is a hypocrite. He is against the system yet milks it for his own profit. Plus he doesn't practice what he preaches. For example, he rails against the house market and unscrupulous landlords making money out of the desperate. That is a worthy cause to support. However, he lives in a house he rents for several thousands pounds a month from a shell company based in a tax haven, thus he supports the cycle of the housing bubble. Lest we not forget that as recently as a month ago he was urging people not vote as he believed there is no point. If you like tokenism and hypocrisy, then respect the man. If you want something deeper, read some Freidrich Hayek and make your own mind up on economics and society - dont be told what to think by a champagne revolutionary.
I have made my own mind up matt. You will notice I wrote "reinforces my decision". Believe me, you will regret this decision if Labour get in. However, it is your freedom to choose who you vote for.
That's it everyone - Matthew the Wise has spoken. Don't. Vote. Labour. Labour should, by rights, walk this election. There is an unpopular Tory government in power, the Lib Dems are confused & not yet forgiven by their core vote for the coalition and the fringe parties have yet to make the impact they desire. However, due to their incompetence, Labour will see themselves wiped out in Scotland, people do not think their sums add up and in marginals will vote Conservative. The Labour leadership is rudderless and reactionary. I can't think of one of them that is a statesman in the making. Chukka Umunna used to look like he could be but he is reverting to '70s politics, like the rest of them are, to try and retain their core vote. They simply don't get it. The fact that they are claiming to be progressive, when in fact their manifesto and intent is based upon a flawed programme of tax and spend, is laughable. The worst part, however, is that they are likely to get in to bed with SNP. They will be become a puppet for a 'government' that has the largest deficit in the UK, has the lowest educational standards in the country, a reactionary defence policy and an economic plan based on a falsehood of an inflated oil price. Tell me with an honest heart that Labour are the economic, social and intellectual saviours of this country. Tell me that you believe that they are talented and worthy of leadership. Tell me that you think they have the resources, are tactile, unified and can resonate with all in his country to create a new Jersulem. Tell me even that you think they are best to shepherd the economy. Tell me they are the best to run the NHS after the debacle of PFI, trusts and botched introduction of market forces into the NHS (I agree that the private sector has a role to play in e NHS but Labours approach was neither something or nothing) during their last government. Tell me that and I know you are lying to yourself and me. This Labour leadership simply cannot be allowed to run this country. They are failures before a single vote has been cast.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 May 15 10.30pm |
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Quote elgrande at 04 May 2015 10.24pm
And just to add to that,I have always voted tory, but don't think I will this time. Would not trust any of them as far as i could spit them.
A return to the 1970s under Red Ed and Calamity Balls. A disaster in the making.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| lankygit Lincoln 04 May 15 10.41pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 10.29pm
Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.38pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 8.28pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.24pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 7.56pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 7.15pm
The fact that the Tories are bit too left wing for my liking, and have a bunch of spineless t***s running the show, pales into insignificance compared to this and actual makes me think that voting Tory is a good idea: I respect Russ, and that just reinforces my decision to vote Labour. He is a hypocrite. He is against the system yet milks it for his own profit. Plus he doesn't practice what he preaches. For example, he rails against the house market and unscrupulous landlords making money out of the desperate. That is a worthy cause to support. However, he lives in a house he rents for several thousands pounds a month from a shell company based in a tax haven, thus he supports the cycle of the housing bubble. Lest we not forget that as recently as a month ago he was urging people not vote as he believed there is no point. If you like tokenism and hypocrisy, then respect the man. If you want something deeper, read some Freidrich Hayek and make your own mind up on economics and society - dont be told what to think by a champagne revolutionary.
I have made my own mind up matt. You will notice I wrote "reinforces my decision". Believe me, you will regret this decision if Labour get in. However, it is your freedom to choose who you vote for.
That's it everyone - Matthew the Wise has spoken. Don't. Vote. Labour. Labour should, by rights, walk this election. There is an unpopular Tory government in power, the Lib Dems are confused & not yet forgiven by their core vote for the coalition and the fringe parties have yet to make the impact they desire. However, due to their incompetence, Labour will see themselves wiped out in Scotland, people do not think their sums add up and in marginals will vote Conservative. The Labour leadership is rudderless and reactionary. I can't think of one of them that is a statesman in the making. Chukka Umunna used to look like he could be but he is reverting to '70s politics, like the rest of them are, to try and retain their core vote. They simply don't get it. The fact that they are claiming to be progressive, when in fact their manifesto and intent is based upon a flawed programme of tax and spend, is laughable. The worst part, however, is that they are likely to get in to bed with SNP. They will be become a puppet for a 'government' that has the largest deficit in the UK, has the lowest educational standards in the country, a reactionary defence policy and an economic plan based on a falsehood of an inflated oil price. Tell me with an honest heart that Labour are the economic, social and intellectual saviours of this country. Tell me that you believe that they are talented and worthy of leadership. Tell me that you think they have the resources, are tactile, unified and can resonate with all in his country to create a new Jersulem. Tell me even that you think they are best to shepherd the economy. Tell me they are the best to run the NHS after the debacle of PFI, trusts and botched introduction of market forces into the NHS (I agree that the private sector has a role to play in e NHS but Labours approach was neither something or nothing) during their last government. Tell me that and I know you are lying to yourself and me. This Labour leadership simply cannot be allowed to run this country. They are failures before a single vote has been cast.
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 May 15 10.54pm |
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Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 10.41pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 10.29pm
Quote Kermit8 at 04 May 2015 9.30pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.38pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 8.28pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 8.24pm
Quote lankygit at 04 May 2015 7.56pm
Quote matt_himself at 04 May 2015 7.15pm
The fact that the Tories are bit too left wing for my liking, and have a bunch of spineless t***s running the show, pales into insignificance compared to this and actual makes me think that voting Tory is a good idea: I respect Russ, and that just reinforces my decision to vote Labour. He is a hypocrite. He is against the system yet milks it for his own profit. Plus he doesn't practice what he preaches. For example, he rails against the house market and unscrupulous landlords making money out of the desperate. That is a worthy cause to support. However, he lives in a house he rents for several thousands pounds a month from a shell company based in a tax haven, thus he supports the cycle of the housing bubble. Lest we not forget that as recently as a month ago he was urging people not vote as he believed there is no point. If you like tokenism and hypocrisy, then respect the man. If you want something deeper, read some Freidrich Hayek and make your own mind up on economics and society - dont be told what to think by a champagne revolutionary.
I have made my own mind up matt. You will notice I wrote "reinforces my decision". Believe me, you will regret this decision if Labour get in. However, it is your freedom to choose who you vote for.
That's it everyone - Matthew the Wise has spoken. Don't. Vote. Labour. Labour should, by rights, walk this election. There is an unpopular Tory government in power, the Lib Dems are confused & not yet forgiven by their core vote for the coalition and the fringe parties have yet to make the impact they desire. However, due to their incompetence, Labour will see themselves wiped out in Scotland, people do not think their sums add up and in marginals will vote Conservative. The Labour leadership is rudderless and reactionary. I can't think of one of them that is a statesman in the making. Chukka Umunna used to look like he could be but he is reverting to '70s politics, like the rest of them are, to try and retain their core vote. They simply don't get it. The fact that they are claiming to be progressive, when in fact their manifesto and intent is based upon a flawed programme of tax and spend, is laughable. The worst part, however, is that they are likely to get in to bed with SNP. They will be become a puppet for a 'government' that has the largest deficit in the UK, has the lowest educational standards in the country, a reactionary defence policy and an economic plan based on a falsehood of an inflated oil price. Tell me with an honest heart that Labour are the economic, social and intellectual saviours of this country. Tell me that you believe that they are talented and worthy of leadership. Tell me that you think they have the resources, are tactile, unified and can resonate with all in his country to create a new Jersulem. Tell me even that you think they are best to shepherd the economy. Tell me they are the best to run the NHS after the debacle of PFI, trusts and botched introduction of market forces into the NHS (I agree that the private sector has a role to play in e NHS but Labours approach was neither something or nothing) during their last government. Tell me that and I know you are lying to yourself and me. This Labour leadership simply cannot be allowed to run this country. They are failures before a single vote has been cast.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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