What I've said about selection within the Tory party is just factually true.

Climate change is just one issue and it was done essentially for other considerations.

I do find it somewhat amusing to read you attempting to turn that old saying into some kind of defence of what our western elites have done.

Firstly, whatever someone thinks as to 'climate change', all this was done by themselves. The vast majority of common men and women have no say or part is what resources are used and by whom. The idea that the same types of people who feck things up are also those that solve them takes some planting of faith indeed.

Secondly, that saying is used to refer to the economic situation that our elites have given both western youth and the unborn....this is no small matter, it is generational debt. They will have to pay in lifestyle levels for the pure selfishness of a previous generation. How you can ignore this and focus upon 'climate' action as some kind of positive when it again mostly involves the least responsible suffering. It is, in my view, you planting a fantasy take instead of trees.

A bit easy for you to say isn't it. You have written many times on this site that you have run successful companies and done well for yourself and are a landlord of several houses and two house incomes.....now I don't criticise your success. (other than perhaps the marketing industry in general) and hard work deserves reward.

However, what I will say is that it's a bit easy to talk of tighting belts when your personal belt has such copious space. Some might suggest that if you had to choose between eating and heating that your attitude towards these matters would be far less sympathetic.....and rightly so.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Sir keirs got richirich wrapped up at pmqs, she'll made 26 billion and no windfall tax,rich richi looked embarrassed, cruelly looks a bit odd to, she's not to bad looking rushing from her door in to the acting car but close up? Her body and pritis face could do it for cp

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I saw this a couple of days ago but didn't bother to post it, but when looking for this again online noticed that it was relegated mid way down the page.
Top of the page was threads claiming that China's actual emmissions were down 8%?
My take is that it is an overplayed scam, but I'll still continue to rinse out & recycle my tuna cans.

Pro USA & Israel

Ah, a climate change denier.

The changes you refer to occurred over very long geological periods.

The current changes are unprecedented in their speed. A few hundred years is half a blink in geological terms.

Previous climate changes of the extent currently experienced triggered mass extinctions; but over eons. The current crisis will cause widespread devastation before the end of this century.

We will be dead. My kids will be dead. But their kids will not. But it is the transition to that state that will be (and is being) felt by us all. The potential rise in sea level of, say, a meter will flood huge, fertile areas of much of the planet, including the Benelux nations from whom we get a great deal of our fresh produce, and the Ganges and Niger deltas. In the latter resides and depend for their food many, many millions of people. They will die or migrate. Many will seek a better life in the West. To which Western nation do you think Nigerians and Bangladeshis have the closest connection?

Accordingly, this is not some theory of the earth altering orbit trajectory and colliding with the sun in 4 billion years or polar reversal or Yellowstone erupting. This is effectively imminent and, at some date not that far away and quite possibly in our lifetime, irreversible.

Great to see Jeremy corban getting a question in about climate change looking sharp, to be fair to rich richi he dealt with it well, said can the mber ask the leader of the opposition to look into it and pass me the details, but bad dsy for richi the performance wasn't to bad,but the truth can't hide

I always find this sort of chirp baffling

What you're ignoring, either deliberately or otherwise, is the length of time that change took. No reasonable individual is saying that the planet doesn't have natural warming and cooling cycles. It's the speed of change which is the issue, and belching out trillions of tons of warming gases doesn't exactly help to slow things down.

Besides, in some ways the science is irrelevant. Finding ways to produce energy and growth that don't involve irreversibly destroying nature and polluting anything and everything we can think of is a bit of a no brainer, really.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.