Actually, I don't disagree with all of this!

Where we differ is that I voted remain for free market reasons i.e., the free flow of literate European labour who come here when the work exists and generally go back when its gone. The hordes of EU citizens swarming here to get our benefits, medical and women etc. is largely a figment of the imagination of the Daily Express leader columnist.

Of course, there is always inertia; but those who stay (like some Polish friends of ours) are hardworking, enterprising, pay their taxes and knock out kids who are interchangeable with the indigenous crowd.

Non-EU citizens, particularly semi-literate males from developing countries, very different story. If you have a skill we can use, apply legally. Otherwise, fast track applications and return those who have illegally entered and are not genuine refugees.

But then leaving has made precisely 100% no difference to this flow; and was never likely to.

Williamson gone.

He will be 'clearing his name'.

Wonder what happened to the tarantula.

Just when we thought we were getting back to some normality in the country- without liars and CONS having to appear on tv all day, every day- we see another incompetent bully boy- Sue ella devil is next- but it is more turmoil by the inept CONservatives- That is a DIS GRACE!

No it hasn't. Over the past 20 years or so all our politicians have become increasingly aware that the threat from man made climate change is real and represents the most serious threat we have ever faced.

They have access to the science in ways which we don't.

If there was ever an issue that demanded a global response it's this one. Unless we tackle it together the future for those that follow looks so bleak that there may not even be one.

You posted yesterday that "'A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in". Unusually for you it's completely true and is entirely apposite when considering how we must respond to climate change.

Current immigration has no direct bearing on this, but if we don't succeed in conquering global warming we are going to see a lot more as a consequence.

No politician, of whatever party, can claim to be truly serving their people if they put short term interests above the need to deal with climate change. Which is why the trend to populism and the dumbing down of politics which follows, is so dangerously inappropriate at this time more than any.

Your constant attacks on the WEF and globalism are not just malicious misrepresentations, they are part of a larger effort by the right to sow doubts and a lack of trust in governments, NGOs and other concerned stakeholders, when we need them to succeed more than ever.

Have you ever stopped to consider who is growing the seed that you sow? You often ask people to "follow the money". Do so yourself.

Supporting other countries to deal with climate change is not an alternative to us providing support to our own sick, needy and vulnerable. We must do both and the rest of us must shoulder the costs. Us old men need to plant some trees!

This recession will be painful. Those selfishly going on, or threatening, strikes at this time disgust me. As do those making stupid protests which disrupt the lives of others. We need to face this together, work hard and accept less. Playing blame games produces nothing but anger and hot air and we already have more than enough of both.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.