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 Stirlingsays  06 Nov 22 11.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
“Wing” of what? “White dissident right” is a thoroughly unpleasant expression which brings back echoes of the past. A few years ago those who now use such words to describe themselves might have been members of the National Front, BNP or more recently Britain First. Of course none were identical, they kept falling out over just how nasty they wanted to be, but there is a common thread that links. 90 years ago Oswald Mosley would have liked the term. Sounds so much more acceptable than fascist. As our security services have said that the greatest threat to our democracy comes from the far right I think having the police monitoring them and publicly denouncing them is to be welcomed, not criticised. I'd say you trying to claim that you are a 'one nation conservative', while supporting what seems to be the entirety of the 'progressives' social beliefs is far more insidious. I'm not currently a member of any political group and haven't been since leaving Ukip so what you think of 'insert A' group matters little to me. If you're going to try and attach the word 'fascist' to the likes of me....and we all know that's what you are trying to do then I'll happy call you a communist and quite frankly some of the ideas you support would have happily fitted right in, especially your authoritarian ones. I'm not really into Mosley, I'm more a Powell guy. Powell was a war hero (fighting the very people you seem eager to attach to those who believe in his ideas) and a brilliant academic. I see him as a visionary and the only politician who stood up against the disastrous choices our elites made. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Nov 2022 12.04am)
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| Stirlingsays 07 Nov 22 1.46am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As our security services have said that the greatest threat to our democracy comes from the far right I think having the police monitoring them and publicly denouncing them is to be welcomed, not criticised. In the light of this paragraph from the 'social liberal' WE let's remind ourselves of his supported pick Biden, who also shares his attitude towards his opposition. [Tweet Link]
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 07 Nov 22 6.54am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Nothing you do works', Andrew Neill tonight. 12 years of the tories, let's boot them out. A winter of discontent on the cards, I think the public may take a very different view of things now. A councillor visiting a failing food bank 'It's like Dickens'. In 2022. Edited by HKOwen (07 Nov 2022 9.03am)
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Nov 22 6.58am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
“Wing” of what? “White dissident right” is a thoroughly unpleasant expression which brings back echoes of the past. A few years ago those who now use such words to describe themselves might have been members of the National Front, BNP or more recently Britain First. Of course none were identical, they kept falling out over just how nasty they wanted to be, but there is a common thread that links. 90 years ago Oswald Mosley would have liked the term. Sounds so much more acceptable than fascist. As our security services have said that the greatest threat to our democracy comes from the far right I think having the police monitoring them and publicly denouncing them is to be welcomed, not criticised. Our security services have not to my knowledge said that ever. Do you have any evidence to support this claim. If so please produce it.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Nov 22 9.02am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 22 9.05am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'd say you trying to claim that you are a 'one nation conservative', while supporting what seems to be the entirety of the 'progressives' social beliefs is far more insidious. I'm not currently a member of any political group and haven't been since leaving Ukip so what you think of 'insert A' group matters little to me. If you're going to try and attach the word 'fascist' to the likes of me....and we all know that's what you are trying to do then I'll happy call you a communist and quite frankly some of the ideas you support would have happily fitted right in, especially your authoritarian ones. I'm not really into Mosley, I'm more a Powell guy. Powell was a war hero (fighting the very people you seem eager to attach to those who believe in his ideas) and a brilliant academic. I see him as a visionary and the only politician who stood up against the disastrous choices our elites made. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Nov 2022 12.04am) Whataboutism, jangling nerves and a hat being worn, all in one post! Quite an achievement. One nation Conservatives, the type I identify with, do support progressive social ideas. They don't support daft ideas, whether of the right or left. They are pragmatists. They want to make progress and not turn the clock back, whilst recognising that politics is the art of the possible.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 22 9.10am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Our security services have not to my knowledge said that ever. Do you have any evidence to support this claim. If so please produce it. See my post at 10.31 pm yesterday.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Nov 22 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whataboutism, jangling nerves and a hat being worn, all in one post! Quite an achievement. One nation Conservatives, the type I identify with, do support progressive social ideas. They don't support daft ideas, whether of the right or left. They are pragmatists. They want to make progress and not turn the clock back, whilst recognising that politics is the art of the possible. Cognitive dissonance.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Nov 22 1.30pm |
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These are the known companies that have pulled their ads on Twitter. If someone believes that Musk's version of free speech is better than the protected censored speech against anyone other than 'progressives' and neo liberals themselves, then these companies are against you. General Mills Ford would be turning in his grave to see his company today. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Nov 2022 1.32pm)
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 07 Nov 22 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
These are the known companies that have pulled their ads on Twitter. If someone believes that Musk's version of free speech is better than the protected censored speech against anyone other than 'progressives' and neo liberals themselves, then these companies are against you. General Mills Ford would be turning in his grave to see his company today. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Nov 2022 1.32pm) As far as I'm aware some have suspended funding to see how it plays out. I think his approach is broadly sensible, and as long as it's moderated sensibly and Musk doesn't do something stupid resulting in losing millions of users then they'll be back on the platform soon enough Couldn't have completed his takeover at a worse time with the mid-terms imminent. Misinformation and dross is going to be rampant
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Teddy Eagle  07 Nov 22 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
As far as I'm aware some have suspended funding to see how it plays out. I think his approach is broadly sensible, and as long as it's moderated sensibly and Musk doesn't do something stupid resulting in losing millions of users then they'll be back on the platform soon enough Couldn't have completed his takeover at a worse time with the mid-terms imminent. Misinformation and dross is going to be rampant There are 6 people with more than 100 million Twitter followers. Between them they should cover the political spectrum.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Nov 22 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
As far as I'm aware some have suspended funding to see how it plays out. I think his approach is broadly sensible, and as long as it's moderated sensibly and Musk doesn't do something stupid resulting in losing millions of users then they'll be back on the platform soon enough Couldn't have completed his takeover at a worse time with the mid-terms imminent. Misinformation and dross is going to be rampant I think Musk has always been quite open as to his attitude regarding free speech. He's a free speech absolutist, though obviously he would keep to the law....but probably as loosely as possible given that he's not a fan. I would regard the number of these companies as rather suspect and while I think Musk is right to view it as the work of activists it's also true that a far number of those activists will actually be working within those companies themselves nowadays. As for the mid-terms, did you catch Trump calling Ron DeSantis, Ron DeSanctimonious?.....I must admit, childish or not, I do enjoy the trolling in politics. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Nov 2022 2.58pm)
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