As I recall he, like I, said we needed to allow proper justice to take place.

Your modus operandi is to never let anyone have the last word. As a result you constantly post, bludgeoning anyone with a different view from you into giving up posting. On any topic. In any thread. Made worse by the myriad of like-minded drones that fawn over you.

You then invent nonsense, keep repeating it and in the end people stop fighting back. Eventually it becomes 'the truth'.

In Wisbech you have met someone with even more energy than you and even more determination not to let anyone else have the final word. And he is brighter than you and better informed. This is why you are so embittered. A bitterness that appears to come very easily to you.

I sincerely hope they do read them as they will surely realise much better than yourself where the truth lies.

That justice is slow and painful is really unfortunate but if slow and careful is what is needed it's better than no justice at all.

I am so glad you aren't running our justice system. You would lock up half the men in Rotherham because someone on the Hol says they might have done something.

Finding admissible evidence that will get past the CPS is a challenging task.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The word 'truth' must leave the lips of certain people like a snail trail.

It should go without saying that grooming gangs should never be allowed to operate. However, the focus also needs to be on the Police and the politicians and influencers who, at this time, implemented the 'eyes averted' policies.

I'll repeat, tens of thousands of girls have been raped in over twenty towns and this went on for decades....God knows if it's still happening.

Nothing serious was done until the Times reported on this while others had been stating this for many years previous. Yet they receive hate for even pointing it out....completely upside down ethics.

We have had apologists and deflectors and they deserve all the criticism they get.

There was a deliberate unspoken policy of not wanting to investigate and of ignoring crimes due to sensitivity on race.

This has been heavily criticised in reports and again, there won't be justice until those who enabled these rapes to continue are punished by the law.....no matter how high, no matter how low.

This has been dropped like a stone from our system because so many are complicit in enabling it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 7.21pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

WE apologist's comments regarding how the Police and authorities dealt with grooming gangs can be found from around page 20 on the Tommy Robinson thread. He received criticism from various posters at the time and has been doing his re-framing ever since.

Here is a selection of two posts he wrote:

On the 09 Feb 19 12.48pm: WE posted.

'Thousands of girls?

Alleged assertion! Who knows what the police and social services knew and what strategy was being employed to deal with it. That others think they know better doesn't mean they do.'

So here suggests that the Police might not have known what was going on.

Yet the next day....

10 Feb 19 11.52am

To my comment that:
'Perhaps you should read 'Easy Meat' by Peter McLoughlin.'

He replies:

'I have followed this story for at least 20 years, well before it hit the headlines, as I have had some tangential personal connections. I can assure you that both the Police and social services were very well aware of the issue for all that time, but preferred to handle things quietly and without it becoming a media circus which just made things worse.'

Hence, here not only do you see him defend the policy of keeping these rapes by grooming gangs quiet he assures you that they in fact were aware of it.

These are the attitudes that have imported and created this problem much larger than it ever would have been.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The whole Savile story is a lesson in human nature....both its manipulation and frailty but also the line where responsibility lies and where it can be ignored and denied.

But that's for those close enough to Savile to actually know or have reasonable suspicion.....and to be honest I doubt if that was many who knew for sure.

I looked into the Titanic story for years and I regard that as one of the best educations in human nature, the best of it and the worst of it. You learn the truths behind the myths and how, in some ways, little actually changes.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The evidence was asked for, the evidence was provided and the re-framing was made.

I'm happy for the reader to come to their own conclusions.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)