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southnorwoodhill 22 Dec 23 8.54am
With Hodgson saying that he won't be here for another season, why wait until then to replace him? He's going anyway, and the irony is what took him previously 3/4 seasons to accomplish (the most abysmal negative football ever) he's now managed in half a season, skills. I have my doubts about Parish, he was very ready previously to sack any manager that took us below a certain point, yet here we are, in 16th when Everton win their game in hand, and yet Hodgson remains in place. perhaps Parish has no names left in his notebook to contact. It's hardly tactical genius to stick everybody behind the ball, yet Hodgson's made a career of it. Upcoming league games against Chelsea, Brentford, and Arsenal, and you know it's going to be more of the same. Perhaps Palace fans have heeded Croydon Roy's words, and know that this is indeed as good as it gets.
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With Hodgson saying that he won't be here for another season, why wait until then to replace him? He's going anyway, and the irony is what took him previously 3/4 seasons to accomplish (the most abysmal negative football ever) he's now managed in half a season, skills.
I have my doubts about Parish, he was very ready previously to sack any manager that took us below a certain point, yet here we are, in 16th when Everton win their game in hand, and yet Hodgson remains in place. perhaps Parish has no names left in his notebook to contact.
It's hardly tactical genius to stick everybody behind the ball, yet Hodgson's made a career of it. Upcoming league games against Chelsea, Brentford, and Arsenal, and you know it's going to be more of the same.
Perhaps Palace fans have heeded Croydon Roy's words, and know that this is indeed as good as it gets.

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beak croydon 22 Dec 23 9.05am
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid I think Forest's home crowd carried them a bit last season and their away record suggests Cooper isn't great at managing a team to win a game of football when they're up against it which is a red flag IMO. That said I don't think we should delude ourselves about the level of coach we should be looking at. Some of our managerial recruitment attempts and departures have looked pretty ham fisted and the ownership structure still looks very messy. I'd think that SP will like Cooper's knowledge of youth football. MY new campaign,when Roy chooses to go,ABC Anyone But Cooper.
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croydon 22 Dec 23 9.05am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I think Forest's home crowd carried them a bit last season and their away record suggests Cooper isn't great at managing a team to win a game of football when they're up against it which is a red flag IMO.

That said I don't think we should delude ourselves about the level of coach we should be looking at. Some of our managerial recruitment attempts and departures have looked pretty ham fisted and the ownership structure still looks very messy.

I'd think that SP will like Cooper's knowledge of youth football.

MY new campaign,when Roy chooses to go,ABC Anyone But Cooper.

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Croydon-Trucker 22 Dec 23 10.15am
Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?
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Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

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Dubai Eagle 22 Dec 23 10.22am
Cooper (less chance of it all going tits up & ended up being relegated) - Paddy may become a good manager but not without earning his stripes - Avoiding relegation may become super important if ESL gathers pace ( in any way shape or form) & means that there are structural changes to the PL Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?
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22 Dec 23 10.22am

Cooper (less chance of it all going tits up & ended up being relegated) - Paddy may become a good manager but not without earning his stripes -

Avoiding relegation may become super important if ESL gathers pace ( in any way shape or form) & means that there are structural changes to the PL

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

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ambrose7 Croydon 22 Dec 23 10.30am
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ? Cooper, it isn't even close. Paddy could well be part of the backroom team but he's never had to deal with being the main man. He'd need an unbelievably experienced assistant if it were to happen. Also, I don't see how Paddy releases any of the shackles people seem to want - he's only ever played in sides that have been very practical. Shame you can't send your backroom staff out on loan... 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 22 Dec 23 10.30am

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

Cooper, it isn't even close. Paddy could well be part of the backroom team but he's never had to deal with being the main man. He'd need an unbelievably experienced assistant if it were to happen. Also, I don't see how Paddy releases any of the shackles people seem to want - he's only ever played in sides that have been very practical.

Shame you can't send your backroom staff out on loan...

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fish mitten Chelmsford 22 Dec 23 10.40am
I suspect we may as well as stick with Roy. The board didn't do enough in the summer window and they seem to think a couple of loans may be enough in the winter window. Far too many players who are well past their best or championship standard at best in the squad. Roy is probably the best option to keep us up with what we have. It won't be pretty though. Sack Roy and I expect we'll be getting through another manager and appointing a third this season as we head for the abyss. We have papered over the cracks and kicked the can down the road too many times. Edited by fish mitten (22 Dec 2023 10.41am)
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Chelmsford 22 Dec 23 10.40am

I suspect we may as well as stick with Roy. The board didn't do enough in the summer window and they seem to think a couple of loans may be enough in the winter window.

Far too many players who are well past their best or championship standard at best in the squad.

Roy is probably the best option to keep us up with what we have.
It won't be pretty though.

Sack Roy and I expect we'll be getting through another manager and appointing a third this season as we head for the abyss.

We have papered over the cracks and kicked the can down the road too many times.

Edited by fish mitten (22 Dec 2023 10.41am)

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Painter Croydon 22 Dec 23 10.48am
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ? Neither, Roy will be here until the end of the season. Give a new manager a pre season to adapt to any new playing style.
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Croydon 22 Dec 23 10.48am

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

Neither, Roy will be here until the end of the season. Give a new manager a pre season to adapt to any new playing style.

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fish mitten Chelmsford 22 Dec 23 10.55am
I think if we appoint Paddy, its the recipe for an unmitigated disaster. The only reason it would happen is because SP and the board believe this squad is good enough. The truth is it isn't. If we are sticking with the same players we may as well stick with Roy and he's as good as you'll get in this situation. Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?
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Chelmsford 22 Dec 23 10.55am

I think if we appoint Paddy, its the recipe for an unmitigated disaster. The only reason it would happen is because SP and the board believe this squad is good enough. The truth is it isn't. If we are sticking with the same players we may as well stick with Roy and he's as good as you'll get in this situation.

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

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beak croydon 22 Dec 23 11.31am
Originally posted by fish mitten I think if we appoint Paddy, its the recipe for an unmitigated disaster. The only reason it would happen is because SP and the board believe this squad is good enough. The truth is it isn't. If we are sticking with the same players we may as well stick with Roy and he's as good as you'll get in this situation. I think the board's view is this is the best we can do with the amount of money available,i'm certain that we will BUY a player,possibly two as the Championship looms large (a financial disaster) and we will suffer more injuries this side of May '24.We may also loan a player or two.
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croydon 22 Dec 23 11.31am

Originally posted by fish mitten

I think the board's view is this is the best we can do with the amount of money available,i'm certain that we will BUY a player,possibly two as the Championship looms large (a financial disaster) and we will suffer more injuries this side of May '24.We may also loan a player or two.

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CrazyBadger Ware 22 Dec 23 11.51am
Going from Hodgson to McCarthy seems like a fools errand - one that on the surface is neither progressive or reserved. He'll probably be RHv2, but a less experienced one. no point appointing him now, unless RH walks and leaves us with no manager. Part of me thinks that RH knows best, and that his way is the best way for this squad. But I cannot help think/hope that a fresh pair of modern thinking, tactically adept eyes would know how to invigorate and inject some of our promising youth into the setup more effectively than RH has done. I do not think Prem experience is a must, and I don't look at our previous attempts at a progressive managers as reasons not to continue that effort. In fact I'd rather one with no PL experience over one with PL experience, but an imcompatible approach. I think that now Cooper is available, on the surface it looks like he'd be a good appointment. Roy is feeling disgruntled and unloved, and I wouldn't want to push him out in a way that lacks the Respect he deserves. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 22 Dec 23 11.51am

Going from Hodgson to McCarthy seems like a fools errand - one that on the surface is neither progressive or reserved.
He'll probably be RHv2, but a less experienced one. no point appointing him now, unless RH walks and leaves us with no manager.

Part of me thinks that RH knows best, and that his way is the best way for this squad. But I cannot help think/hope that a fresh pair of modern thinking, tactically adept eyes would know how to invigorate and inject some of our promising youth into the setup more effectively than RH has done.

I do not think Prem experience is a must, and I don't look at our previous attempts at a progressive managers as reasons not to continue that effort. In fact I'd rather one with no PL experience over one with PL experience, but an imcompatible approach.

I think that now Cooper is available, on the surface it looks like he'd be a good appointment. Roy is feeling disgruntled and unloved, and I wouldn't want to push him out in a way that lacks the Respect he deserves.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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johnny the eagle wivenhoe 22 Dec 23 12.33pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ? No to Paddy, lack of experience. No to Cooper done naff all at forest. South London born and bred red and blue till im dead.
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Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

No to Paddy, lack of experience. No to Cooper done naff all at forest.

South London born and bred
red and blue till im dead.

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Dec 23 12.47pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ? Do you seriously think that he has a chance of getting the job? I think not. Cooper is too ugly to be our manager.
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Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Here's a question for all the members . Paddy or Cooper ?

Do you seriously think that he has a chance of getting the job?

I think not.

Cooper is too ugly to be our manager.

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