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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 28 Dec 23 10.11am
Originally posted by derfes i think there are two simple metrics on which we can determine whether to sack a manager. Win % viera: 29.73 Hodgson: 32.26 from 31 games if we lose to brentford, everton, arsenal and shefield wednesday then Hodgson's win percentage will fall below vierra's Points per game Viera :1.229 Hodgson:1.258 current points won is 39 accordingly we have vierra equivalent point attaintment equivalents. Brentford:39.35 everton : 40.58 Arsenal : 41.81 Sheff wed:43.04 current points won is 39. I'd want to examine after sheffield wednesday, but Hodgson's record this season( never mind the bournemouth performance) isn't encouraging. Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield Utd?
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 28 Dec 23 10.11am

Originally posted by derfes

i think there are two simple metrics on which we can determine whether to sack a manager.

Win %

viera: 29.73
Hodgson: 32.26 from 31 games

if we lose to brentford, everton, arsenal and shefield wednesday then Hodgson's win percentage will fall below vierra's

Points per game
Viera :1.229
Hodgson:1.258

current points won is 39
accordingly we have vierra equivalent point attaintment equivalents.
Brentford:39.35
everton : 40.58
Arsenal : 41.81
Sheff wed:43.04

current points won is 39. I'd want to examine after sheffield wednesday, but Hodgson's record this season( never mind the bournemouth performance) isn't encouraging.

Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield Utd?

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derfes upper norwood 28 Dec 23 10.20am
ah yes my bad , sheffield united.
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derfes

upper norwood 28 Dec 23 10.20am

ah yes my bad , sheffield united.

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 28 Dec 23 10.22am
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield Utd? That’s next season
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Davepalace707

Northumberland 28 Dec 23 10.22am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Sheffield Wednesday or Sheffield Utd?

That’s next season

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 28 Dec 23 10.29am
See the bookies have installed Roy as favourite to the next EPL manager to be sacked . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 28 Dec 23 10.29am

See the bookies have installed Roy as favourite to the next EPL manager to be sacked . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Dangermouse Hastings 28 Dec 23 10.33am
We got 2 points more in the last 4 games than I expected, but with proper in game management from the manager, it would have been at least 4 points. Sadly the only time he used his bench and managed properly was against City, where he was forced by an injury and the fact we were two down into doing the right thing. He's running his chosen few into the ground and it's costing us points IMO. There are no guarantees in football, but the last four games have proved that we are good enough to give every team in this division a very close game. We've deserved more, but we just run out of steam or we just refuse to try and win a game, cos the manager is terrified of changing things in case we lose, but in doing so he's ensuring we lose anyway. The only way we find out if players are good enough is to play them. Fcuk it, after 19 games we should already know if they are good enough, cos they should have the minutes under their belts already. For the record I'd have bought on França for Eze and Ahamada for Mateta on 75-80 mins, moving Ayew up top. Then Ozoh for Richards a few minutes later. As I say there are no guarantees, but at least I can say that I tried everything to get something from the game. Roy is just waiting for the cup game where he will throw all of them in at once, into a totally ill prepared one off team and then claim, "told you so". I'm sad that Roy will eventually leave as a villain, but he should never have come back. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 28 Dec 23 10.33am

We got 2 points more in the last 4 games than I expected, but with proper in game management from the manager, it would have been at least 4 points. Sadly the only time he used his bench and managed properly was against City, where he was forced by an injury and the fact we were two down into doing the right thing. He's running his chosen few into the ground and it's costing us points IMO. There are no guarantees in football, but the last four games have proved that we are good enough to give every team in this division a very close game. We've deserved more, but we just run out of steam or we just refuse to try and win a game, cos the manager is terrified of changing things in case we lose, but in doing so he's ensuring we lose anyway. The only way we find out if players are good enough is to play them. Fcuk it, after 19 games we should already know if they are good enough, cos they should have the minutes under their belts already. For the record I'd have bought on França for Eze and Ahamada for Mateta on 75-80 mins, moving Ayew up top. Then Ozoh for Richards a few minutes later. As I say there are no guarantees, but at least I can say that I tried everything to get something from the game.
Roy is just waiting for the cup game where he will throw all of them in at once, into a totally ill prepared one off team and then claim, "told you so".
I'm sad that Roy will eventually leave as a villain, but he should never have come back.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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PatrickA London 28 Dec 23 11.05am
If you're going to change the manager, the time to do it is during the break in January. I can see it happening and it wouldn't surprise me if it was Cooper. These stories have been around for weeks and it may well be a question of time. Although such a move would disappoint some fans, I can see some merits. He's done well in every job he's undertaken, including taking the basket case of Forest up and keeping them up. His dismissal seemed as much to do with conflicts with the owner including over players brought into the club. It would be good for all the players at Palace to start with a clean slate and have a fresh opportunity. Roy often seems to base his selections on players who are familiar with his methods last time around as manage. A new manager would not be similarly encumbered.
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PatrickA

London 28 Dec 23 11.05am

If you're going to change the manager, the time to do it is during the break in January.
I can see it happening and it wouldn't surprise me if it was Cooper. These stories have been around for weeks and it may well be a question of time.
Although such a move would disappoint some fans, I can see some merits.
He's done well in every job he's undertaken, including taking the basket case of Forest up and keeping them up.
His dismissal seemed as much to do with conflicts with the owner including over players brought into the club.

It would be good for all the players at Palace to start with a clean slate and have a fresh opportunity.
Roy often seems to base his selections on players who are familiar with his methods last time around as manage.
A new manager would not be similarly encumbered.

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Plumpton eagle East Sussex 28 Dec 23 11.20am
Dangermouse We got 2 points more in the last 4 games than I expected, but with proper in game management from the manager, it would have been at least 4 points. Sadly the only time he used his bench and managed properly was against City, where he was forced by an injury and the fact we were two down into doing the right thing. He's running his chosen few into the ground and it's costing us points IMO. There are no guarantees in football, but the last four games have proved that we are good enough to give every team in this division a very close game. We've deserved more, but we just run out of steam or we just refuse to try and win a game, cos the manager is terrified of changing things in case we lose, but in doing so he's ensuring we lose anyway. The only way we find out if players are good enough is to play them. Fcuk it, after 19 games we should already know if they are good enough, cos they should have the minutes under their belts already. For the record I'd have bought on França for Eze and Ahamada for Mateta on 75-80 mins, moving Ayew up top. Then Ozoh for Richards a few minutes later. As I say there are no guarantees, but at least I can say that I tried everything to get something from the game. Roy is just waiting for the cup game where he will throw all of them in at once, into a totally ill prepared one off team and then claim, "told you so". I'm sad that Roy will eventually leave as a villain, but he should never have come back. ------------------------------------------------------- Spot on for me. At one point in the commentary it was revealed Palace have had 80 corners this season with not one goal resulting (only team in the prem without a corner goal). This can't all be bad luck or poor finishing. It smacks of a lack of a corner strategy, or routines or just trying different things. We have become very solid defending corners but bereft of ideas or imagination in taking them. This has to be a coaching issue. Perhaps, another example where defensive coaching is more evident than offensive. Roy has been brilliant for us but he looked a tired and beaten man last night. I would be disappointed to see him leave on a low but if we fail to beat Brentford then I think he will go.
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Dangermouse

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Spot on for me.

At one point in the commentary it was revealed Palace have had 80 corners this season with not one goal resulting (only team in the prem without a corner goal). This can't all be bad luck or poor finishing. It smacks of a lack of a corner strategy, or routines or just trying different things. We have become very solid defending corners but bereft of ideas or imagination in taking them. This has to be a coaching issue. Perhaps, another example where defensive coaching is more evident than offensive.

Roy has been brilliant for us but he looked a tired and beaten man last night. I would be disappointed to see him leave on a low but if we fail to beat Brentford then I think he will go.

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IP4Eagle Ipswich 28 Dec 23 11.28am
It reminds me of when I handed in my notice at my first proper job I honestly thought I'd still be the model employee in my two weeks of notice - in the end I was sent home after 3 days because actually I couldn't give a stuff because why would I? You need a manager, regardless of ability, who's fighting for their career, their reputation or to try and get a better job. Someone with skin in the game. I like Roy, but Roy can do what he likes, say what he likes and deep down has absolutely nothing to motivate or push him so he's not gonna be staying up all night trying to find the way to unlock the teams potential, why should he? Whilst refreshing candour is always appreciated his slating the fans for being spoilt, telling the press Chelsea wont be "worried about the team he's bringing" and everything else is just symptomatic of someone who is beyond comfortable in their situation, and his comfort will in no way be impacted by the teams form. He needs to go, and we just need frankly anyone right now who might give it a f**king good go at it because as someone else said we're in freefall right now.
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IP4Eagle

Ipswich 28 Dec 23 11.28am

It reminds me of when I handed in my notice at my first proper job I honestly thought I'd still be the model employee in my two weeks of notice - in the end I was sent home after 3 days because actually I couldn't give a stuff because why would I? You need a manager, regardless of ability, who's fighting for their career, their reputation or to try and get a better job. Someone with skin in the game.

I like Roy, but Roy can do what he likes, say what he likes and deep down has absolutely nothing to motivate or push him so he's not gonna be staying up all night trying to find the way to unlock the teams potential, why should he?

Whilst refreshing candour is always appreciated his slating the fans for being spoilt, telling the press Chelsea wont be "worried about the team he's bringing" and everything else is just symptomatic of someone who is beyond comfortable in their situation, and his comfort will in no way be impacted by the teams form.

He needs to go, and we just need frankly anyone right now who might give it a f**king good go at it because as someone else said we're in freefall right now.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 23 11.30am
Originally posted by Plumpton eagle Dangermouse We got 2 points more in the last 4 games than I expected, but with proper in game management from the manager, it would have been at least 4 points. Sadly the only time he used his bench and managed properly was against City, where he was forced by an injury and the fact we were two down into doing the right thing. He's running his chosen few into the ground and it's costing us points IMO. There are no guarantees in football, but the last four games have proved that we are good enough to give every team in this division a very close game. We've deserved more, but we just run out of steam or we just refuse to try and win a game, cos the manager is terrified of changing things in case we lose, but in doing so he's ensuring we lose anyway. The only way we find out if players are good enough is to play them. Fcuk it, after 19 games we should already know if they are good enough, cos they should have the minutes under their belts already. For the record I'd have bought on França for Eze and Ahamada for Mateta on 75-80 mins, moving Ayew up top. Then Ozoh for Richards a few minutes later. As I say there are no guarantees, but at least I can say that I tried everything to get something from the game. Roy is just waiting for the cup game where he will throw all of them in at once, into a totally ill prepared one off team and then claim, "told you so". I'm sad that Roy will eventually leave as a villain, but he should never have come back. ------------------------------------------------------- Spot on for me. At one point in the commentary it was revealed Palace have had 80 corners this season with not one goal resulting (only team in the prem without a corner goal). This can't all be bad luck or poor finishing. It smacks of a lack of a corner strategy, or routines or just trying different things. We have become very solid defending corners but bereft of ideas or imagination in taking them. This has to be a coaching issue. Perhaps, another example where defensive coaching is more evident than offensive. Roy has been brilliant for us but he looked a tired and beaten man last night. I would be disappointed to see him leave on a low but if we fail to beat Brentford then I think he will go. There are those who believe he will be in situ for the Brentford game and dearly hope that we fail to secure the victory as they believe this will signal the departure of our manager. Suffice to say he has become 'Persona Non Grata' amongst sections of our fanbase.In football as in life one day one is cock of the walk, another a feather duster.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 23 11.30am

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle

Dangermouse

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Spot on for me.

Roy has been brilliant for us but he looked a tired and beaten man last night. I would be disappointed to see him leave on a low but if we fail to beat Brentford then I think he will go.

There are those who believe he will be in situ for the Brentford game and dearly hope that we fail to secure the victory as they believe this will signal the departure of our manager.

Suffice to say he has become 'Persona Non Grata' amongst sections of our fanbase.In football as in life one day one is cock of the walk, another a feather duster.

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Jacey 28 Dec 23 11.37am
Originally posted by Willo There are those who believe he will be in situ for the Brentford game and dearly hope that we fail to secure the victory as they believe this will signal the departure of our manager. Suffice to say he has become 'Persona Non Grata' amongst sections of our fanbase.In football as in life one day one is cock of the walk, another a feather duster. Can you translate,please,to a thicko??
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Jacey

28 Dec 23 11.37am

Originally posted by Willo

There are those who believe he will be in situ for the Brentford game and dearly hope that we fail to secure the victory as they believe this will signal the departure of our manager.

Suffice to say he has become 'Persona Non Grata' amongst sections of our fanbase.In football as in life one day one is cock of the walk, another a feather duster.

Can you translate,please,to a thicko??

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 28 Dec 23 11.39am
I still think he’ll be here for the rest of the season, I’m sure SP will be thinking he’s still that safe option that will still grind out enough points to get us to safety despite the terrible run we’re on A change now could be a disaster, by the time the new man shakes things up and settles down we could be in the bottom three and it might be a struggle to get out then. This is what I think parish will be thinking, not me, personally I’d take the chance now and pull the trigger just to liven things up but then relegation doesn’t particularly bother me, been there, done that several times
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 28 Dec 23 11.39am

I still think he’ll be here for the rest of the season, I’m sure SP will be thinking he’s still that safe option that will still grind out enough points to get us to safety despite the terrible run we’re on
A change now could be a disaster, by the time the new man shakes things up and settles down we could be in the bottom three and it might be a struggle to get out then.

This is what I think parish will be thinking, not me, personally I’d take the chance now and pull the trigger just to liven things up but then relegation doesn’t particularly bother me, been there, done that several times

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 23 11.48am
Originally posted by Jacey Can you translate,please,to a thicko?? It is 'Yours Truly' who fits this description not you. I am just an intellectually starved fusty relic.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 23 11.48am

Originally posted by Jacey

Can you translate,please,to a thicko??

It is 'Yours Truly' who fits this description not you.
I am just an intellectually starved fusty relic.

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