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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Jun 23 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I can't help but feel that immigrants have a rake of kids, yet the local population either can't afford them or have been actively discouraged through various means anyway. In some countries, they incentivise the population to have children, either through once off allowances, tax incentives or monthly subsidies. What do you get in the UK - not anything worth it currently. Of course, as an immigrant, you likely get a stronger case to stay - add that to cultural differences about having as many children as possible which also exacerbate the situation.

I don't know if there are actual statistics to back that up, or whether it's just an urban myth. My guess is that it's probably higher in the first generations but drops to replicate the average in subsequent ones as a UK work pattern is established.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Jun 23 12.17am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That was covered earlier in the thread. It's very high but expected to be caused by a blip, due to Ukraine and Hong Kong arrivals.

Will they all stay until they are old? Should their visas permit them to if they come to work? Questions that are worth asking.

You clearly have no understanding of the BNO policy for Hong Kong residents but don't let that stop you on posting.

I expect you now to google BNO to seek a response

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Jun 23 12.21am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think you need to learn to read. What I wrote was not about population trends per se but about the lack of attention to the contribution that increasing longevity makes to them.

Overall population trends are complex issues with several contributing factors. The fall in the birthrate, well below replacement levels, is an important one, but it is already so low that any further fall cannot impact it much more. Mortality rates though are going to continue to improve, albeit at a lower rate than in the last decades. Common sense dictates that these two things alone must end with an increasing number of people living here, unless some of them leave.

That's without any contribution from immigration, and that was the point I was making. If everything else remains equal, and of course it won't, an increaing number of elderly people and a lower number of young people cannot keep our economy running at the level we have come to rely on. Plugging the gap with immigration is the only realistic answer.

It's not a question of liking or disliking it. It's only a question of realism.

Our world is changing fast and we have no choice other than to change with it. Whilst our mortality improvements will slow, better health care will impact those in the developing world significantly. Combine that with the impacts of climate change and we need to be ready for more change than any of us can imagine.

Please explain what this is supposed to mean

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 23 1.41am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

China must be just suffering terribly from their lack of diversity.

Don't they know that China is a nation of immigrants?

Surely they are aware that China must continually increase its immigrant population to pay for its elderly. I mean, let's forget about pyramid schemes and screwing coming generations....all that can just be sorted out long after we are dead can't it.

I mean, automation isn't going to change that picture radically is it leaving them with huge populations with low social cohesion, housing problems, higher crime and the rest of it.

If only they had traitorous elites planning their future for them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jun 2023 1.43am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 23 3.47am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Jun 23 4.52am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't know if there are actual statistics to back that up, or whether it's just an urban myth. My guess is that it's probably higher in the first generations but drops to replicate the average in subsequent ones as a UK work pattern is established.

Even if your guess is correct it doesn't mean anything; with the number arriving every year there is a constant churn of first generations.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jun 23 10.48am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't know if there are actual statistics to back that up, or whether it's just an urban myth. My guess is that it's probably higher in the first generations but drops to replicate the average in subsequent ones as a UK work pattern is established.

I would suspect that there could be truth in that. A few weeks ago I had a drink with a pakistani woman from England. She was on holiday in Ireland with friends. She had obviously integrated into 'western' culture. Not sure, however, if she is the norm or the unusual.
The current norm in Ireland is that women from Bangladesh or pakistan say they are from Yemen or Somalia (which they clearly aren't) and carry on their radical Islamic message. I find it ironic since the main reason they're leaving in the first place is radical Islam.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 04 Jun 23 11.16am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I would suspect that there could be truth in that. A few weeks ago I had a drink with a pakistani woman from England. She was on holiday in Ireland with friends. She had obviously integrated into 'western' culture. Not sure, however, if she is the norm or the unusual.
The current norm in Ireland is that women from Bangladesh or pakistan say they are from Yemen or Somalia (which they clearly aren't) and carry on their radical Islamic message. I find it ironic since the main reason they're leaving in the first place is radical Islam.

Which pub were you in - the Infidel's Head?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jun 23 11.29am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Which pub were you in - the Infidel's Head?

Funnily enough, there's the King's Head where I live, no one in England would execute Charles I, but someone from Galway had no similar qualms. The pub is supposedly the executioner's house. It's not where I drink though.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 04 Jun 23 12.58pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Just been on the Dissertation thread here on HOL.....questionnaire to fill in....one question is how would you describe your ethnicity? Various answers available (multiple choice) including black asian or white caucasian.....maybe Wissie should protest as white caucasian ISNT an ethnicity according to him??

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Jun 23 1.36pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

China must be just suffering terribly from their lack of diversity.

Don't they know that China is a nation of immigrants?

Surely they are aware that China must continually increase its immigrant population to pay for its elderly. I mean, let's forget about pyramid schemes and screwing coming generations....all that can just be sorted out long after we are dead can't it.

I mean, automation isn't going to change that picture radically is it leaving them with huge populations with low social cohesion, housing problems, higher crime and the rest of it.

If only they had traitorous elites planning their future for them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jun 2023 1.43am)

shock horror........Chinese women are still having kids with chinese men, and all staying together as a family-unit.

Surely these Chinese women will put up and shut up, today anyway. But they must be very envious of the great jobs the Brits are doing in raising our yoof in our inner-Cities ?

 


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