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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 10.20am
Originally posted by DanH Are you for real? Do you know the historical difference between P*ki and Pommie? There’s a very good reason why one is swear filtered on here and one isn’t. Would you think calling someone the N word is ‘fine’ too? The point is that there is no parity and there should be. I cannot accept that people get in a stew about a mere word. I find it pathetic and I don't care about the history. The current generation has only had their own history, not someone else's. That old argument cannot continue to prevail forever. If we are going to be strict about words, then that has to apply universally and not just for protected groups. On the other hand. Why would you want to insult someone at all? It seems to me that most of this stuff can be covered under the heading of common decency to fellow human beings. The racial element is just for headlines and politics.
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Originally posted by DanH

Are you for real? Do you know the historical difference between P*ki and Pommie?

There’s a very good reason why one is swear filtered on here and one isn’t.

Would you think calling someone the N word is ‘fine’ too?

The point is that there is no parity and there should be.

I cannot accept that people get in a stew about a mere word. I find it pathetic and I don't care about the history. The current generation has only had their own history, not someone else's.

That old argument cannot continue to prevail forever.
If we are going to be strict about words, then that has to apply universally and not just for protected groups.

On the other hand. Why would you want to insult someone at all?
It seems to me that most of this stuff can be covered under the heading of common decency to fellow human beings. The racial element is just for headlines and politics.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 10.22am
Originally posted by Orange1290 Then you should have no issues with the many thousands of Asians who came to the UK, opened and ran successful businesses all over the UK involving many of their families and extended relations. They have become the backbone of SME's in the UK, a key part of the economy. Lumping all Asians together? Really? Now that would be insulting to a lot of them.
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18 Nov 21 10.22am

Originally posted by Orange1290

Then you should have no issues with the many thousands of Asians who came to the UK, opened and ran successful businesses all over the UK involving many of their families and extended relations. They have become the backbone of SME's in the UK, a key part of the economy.

Lumping all Asians together? Really? Now that would be insulting to a lot of them.

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Orange1290 18 Nov 21 10.31am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Lumping all Asians together? Really? Now that would be insulting to a lot of them. Not at all, in the same way as referring to Europeans, South American s and Africans. You need to try much harder when you're in a subject that's well out of your depth. There's a lot more to a person than skin colour, something you have clearly not understood. Pro China, EU & Palestine
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18 Nov 21 10.31am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Lumping all Asians together? Really? Now that would be insulting to a lot of them.

Not at all, in the same way as referring to Europeans, South American s and Africans. You need to try much harder when you're in a subject that's well out of your depth. There's a lot more to a person than skin colour, something you have clearly not understood.

Pro China, EU & Palestine

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 10.39am
Originally posted by Orange1290 Not at all, in the same way as referring to Europeans, South American s and Africans. You need to try much harder when you're in a subject that's well out of your depth. There's a lot more to a person than skin colour, something you have clearly not understood. It's hard to understand illogic. You keep telling people that they are out of their depth. That must mean that you consider yourself an expert. I have seen little evidence of that so far. In fact, you are considered by many to be a top candidate for most bonkers poster of the year.
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18 Nov 21 10.39am

Originally posted by Orange1290

It's hard to understand illogic.

You keep telling people that they are out of their depth. That must mean that you consider yourself an expert.

I have seen little evidence of that so far. In fact, you are considered by many to be a top candidate for most bonkers poster of the year.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 11.18am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It's hard to understand illogic. You keep telling people that they are out of their depth. That must mean that you consider yourself an expert. I have seen little evidence of that so far. In fact, you are considered by many to be a top candidate for most bonkers poster of the year. I must have missed that poll. I am so sorry! I would have voted for you. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 11.18am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's hard to understand illogic.

You keep telling people that they are out of their depth. That must mean that you consider yourself an expert.

I have seen little evidence of that so far. In fact, you are considered by many to be a top candidate for most bonkers poster of the year.

I must have missed that poll. I am so sorry! I would have voted for you.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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crystal-purley Purley 18 Nov 21 11.22am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Yes. Pommie is thought to come from Pomegranate which was Australian slang for immigrant. I heard it was from Prisoner Of Her/His Majesty (POHM) Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yes. Pommie is thought to come from Pomegranate which was Australian slang for immigrant.

I heard it was from Prisoner Of Her/His Majesty (POHM)

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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BlueJay UK 18 Nov 21 11.25am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You just don't understand what I'm saying. I can't be bothered to repeat myself again. You've not said anything worth listening to anyway, other than re-iterating a hysterical sweeping aversion of an entire group of people based on what you admit is a single instance in cricket. And yet it's others that are bonkers. You routinely take a dump on this platform with such lunacy. Eventually we will definitely need some meaningful additional clarity from the top and either a thumbs up or thumbs down on how to proceed going forward with the racism on here, because it's horrendous for the club, fans and easy to see why it would turn people away from the site. The last comment I'll bother adding to this thread. Really sometimes you can only shake your head. Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am)
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UK 18 Nov 21 11.25am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You just don't understand what I'm saying. I can't be bothered to repeat myself again.

You've not said anything worth listening to anyway, other than re-iterating a hysterical sweeping aversion of an entire group of people based on what you admit is a single instance in cricket. And yet it's others that are bonkers. You routinely take a dump on this platform with such lunacy.

Eventually we will definitely need some meaningful additional clarity from the top and either a thumbs up or thumbs down on how to proceed going forward with the racism on here, because it's horrendous for the club, fans and easy to see why it would turn people away from the site.

The last comment I'll bother adding to this thread. Really sometimes you can only shake your head.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 12.01pm
Originally posted by BlueJay You've not said anything worth listening to anyway, other than re-iterating a hysterical sweeping aversion of an entire group of people based on what you admit is a single instance in cricket. And yet it's others that are bonkers. You routinely take a dump on this platform with such lunacy. Eventually we will definitely need some meaningful additional clarity from the top and either a thumbs up or thumbs down on how to proceed going forward with the racism on here, because it's horrendous for the club, fans and easy to see why it would turn people away from the site. The last comment I'll bother adding to this thread. Really sometimes you can only shake your head. Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am) Clarity exists. See Rule 8. It's those who ignore it who are the problem. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 12.01pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

The last comment I'll bother adding to this thread. Really sometimes you can only shake your head.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am)

Clarity exists. See Rule 8.

It's those who ignore it who are the problem.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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georgenorman 18 Nov 21 12.01pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Eventually we will definitely need some meaningful additional clarity from the top and either a thumbs up or thumbs down on how to proceed going forward with the racism on here, because it's horrendous for the club, fans and easy to see why it would turn people away from the site. Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am) The word 'racism' has now no meaning except in so far as it more or less signifies "something not desirable". What exactly do you mean by 'racism'?
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18 Nov 21 12.01pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Eventually we will definitely need some meaningful additional clarity from the top and either a thumbs up or thumbs down on how to proceed going forward with the racism on here, because it's horrendous for the club, fans and easy to see why it would turn people away from the site.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 11.33am)

The word 'racism' has now no meaning except in so far as it more or less signifies "something not desirable". What exactly do you mean by 'racism'?

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 12.10pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 It doesn't prohibit hiring on skills, knowledge and fitting into a 'team'. Sound like you're a little bitter & jealous of their achievements. I'm certainly bitter about you not knowing the meaning of the word 'jealous': you mean envious. Normally I'd ignore it but it's the third time you misused the word. Well, up to this point, god knows what happens if I read on. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 12.10pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

It doesn't prohibit hiring on skills, knowledge and fitting into a 'team'.

Sound like you're a little bitter & jealous of their achievements.

I'm certainly bitter about you not knowing the meaning of the word 'jealous': you mean envious.

Normally I'd ignore it but it's the third time you misused the word. Well, up to this point, god knows what happens if I read on.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Teddy Eagle 18 Nov 21 12.15pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC No. Don’t deflect. The first part of the post You’re clearly trying to equate Pommie / Pom with the multiple racist terms that Rafiq was called, ergo passing it all off under one umbrella of bantz innit. Just a bit of banta huh huh huh. Everywon larvae’s banta dahnt they. It’s ahhnly baaanta mate. Yeeeeah, BANTAAAA (Larvae was a pretty good autocorrect) Perhaps not as explicitly as another on here but that’s how it’s coming across. I really don’t understand how hard it is to make the distinction between the two - the apparent view is that it’s only racist when someone takes offence at it. If it’s not taken as offensive then it’s fine. So, that’s not really how it works now is it? Again, not really much there that’s that hard to grasp. The point is that some insults are regarded as the ultimate heresy and can result in people losing their job whilst others haven’t, regardless of the harm they may do to the other party. Perhaps spend a little more time grasping and less on condescending to your intellectual inferiors.
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Teddy Eagle

18 Nov 21 12.15pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

No. Don’t deflect. The first part of the post

You’re clearly trying to equate Pommie / Pom with the multiple racist terms that Rafiq was called, ergo passing it all off under one umbrella of bantz innit.

Just a bit of banta huh huh huh. Everywon larvae’s banta dahnt they. It’s ahhnly baaanta mate. Yeeeeah, BANTAAAA

(Larvae was a pretty good autocorrect)

Perhaps not as explicitly as another on here but that’s how it’s coming across. I really don’t understand how hard it is to make the distinction between the two - the apparent view is that it’s only racist when someone takes offence at it. If it’s not taken as offensive then it’s fine. So, that’s not really how it works now is it? Again, not really much there that’s that hard to grasp.

The point is that some insults are regarded as the ultimate heresy and can result in people losing their job whilst others haven’t, regardless of the harm they may do to the other party.
Perhaps spend a little more time grasping and less on condescending to your intellectual inferiors.

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 12.16pm
Originally posted by DanH You mean stand up for themselves when people are being c*nts to them? You think people didn't stand up for themselves? You just don't have any real clue about the past. Standing up for yourself is one thing, destroying people over behaviour they didn't know you hated is another.....proof being invited to a wedding after. Completely disproportionate. Who are the real arseholes? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 12.16pm

Originally posted by DanH

You mean stand up for themselves when people are being c*nts to them?

You think people didn't stand up for themselves?

You just don't have any real clue about the past.

Standing up for yourself is one thing, destroying people over behaviour they didn't know you hated is another.....proof being invited to a wedding after.

Completely disproportionate.

Who are the real arseholes?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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