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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Sep 21 2.43pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
Yes, London is not representative of Britain, however, London and a few other major cities are where the majority of immigrants have settled. If I was presenting data about Dorset or Wales you would quite rightly say that it was not relevant. London has been a cosmopolitan city since at least 1500 if not earlier. Films of crowds in the 1940s are not imperial data, it’s just an anecdotal observation of no real value. I am sure that you are aware of this and to be frank, I am surprised that you think this is worth mentioning. Most people in Britain have rather diverse genetic profiles, this shows us how much our ancestors moved around in the past. I am not obsessed with Huguenots, but let’s face it they as a case study fascinating. If we are going to discuss immigration the Huguenots represent one of the largest groups to have come to Britain in the past few hundred years. We can, however, if you wish discuss Jews, Irish, Jamaicans, Ugandan Asians, Chinese or Italians. Sometimes you want to look at the ‘bigger picture’ which I take to mean immigration to Britain over a long period and then you want to go back to just the post war period. The arrival of Beaker culture did indeed bring advanced technology and whist I am sure some locals failed to see the benefits others embraced it. Not wishing, in particular, to return to the Romans, the technology that they introduced was not valued much by the ‘locals’ once they had left. So what you see with your own eyes in a film is not good evidence? That was real life, not questionable data. You twist the truth to suit your agenda and we have heard it all before. It was misleading then and it still is now.
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Stirlingsays 14 Sep 21 2.45pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
All the quotes I posted are from a report by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue following the terrorist attack in Christchurch. Those paragraphs I posted are exactly the theories that are posted on here - almost to the letter. They are old as day far right conspiracy theories based on fear and disinformation. It is online radicalisation in its purest form. Is Islam radicalization then if some of its adherents commit terrorist attacks? Because you seem to be suggesting that an idea, even if no advocating for violence is supported, shouldn't be expressed. I don't know of anyone who supported what that guy did. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 2.50pm)
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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Sep 21 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So what you are suggesting is that population replacement is a figment of someone's imagination. oooh, be careful. He may play his secret weapon and accuse you of being a racist !!!!! i am terrified.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Sep 21 3.05pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
oooh, be careful. He may play his secret weapon and accuse you of being a racist !!!!! i am terrified. Probably. He only seems to know a handful of words.
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kuge Peckham 14 Sep 21 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So what you see with your own eyes in a film is not good evidence? That was real life, not questionable data. You twist the truth to suit your agenda and we have heard it all before. It was misleading then and it still is now. Indeed the film evidence that you present is very weak. When and where were the films made and what was the intention behind the making of the films. If you presented this as a research methodology in an academic context you would be laughed out of the room. What are British genes? It's a constantly shifting profile that was different in 500, 1000, 1300, 1600, 1945, etc As this fascinating study shows there is no such thing as British genes. White people in Britain will likely have all the genetic variants that you posted, but also there will be more recent genes, for instance from Jewish or Irish heritage. You will need to demonstrate what truth has been twisted if your statement is to have any validity. You say that you have heard these arguments before. Please can you outline exactly what you have heard before and why you choose to characterise it as misleading?
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kuge Peckham 14 Sep 21 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Racism is tribal preference demonized and indoctrinated into western societies initially by the communists but now its tenets are supported by the whole political class....any serious analysis shows how ridiculous the whole thing is....practically Maoist. European nations have less tribal preference than any other nations in the world, yet they are subject to this nonsense, precisely because interests know this weakness allows them in.....it's an excuse, if they actually believed in racism they would be investigating the groups where tribal preference is highest...but they aren't interested. In terms of the UK, it doesn't really matter what I want, the European country of my birth is dying because of the unspoken interests of the ideological left and the economic right. It's far too late to stop. However, for Japan, it isn't......they shouldn't let their society be abused by those who seek to radically change it.....and automation will largely solve their population issues....as stated, increasing immigration is a self defeating pyramid scheme.
Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 2.03pm) I was aware that some people deny the existence of racism or attempt to redefine what racism is to suit their agenda. It's still a surprise to see this being put forward as a serious idea. We have heard a lot about denial here, without doubt, to deny racism exists is the ultimate denial. The idea that automation will solve everything is often trotted out. The presentation of an aged population minded by robots might make an interesting SiFi film by it does not suggest a bright future. Japan will make its own choices, maybe they will solve it by increasing the birth rate. Although that's unlikely as I think it would now require every woman of childbearing age in Japan to have 3+ children.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Sep 21 3.46pm | |
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The first thing we must ask for, when the dingy glides on to the Dover shore, is, can you drive a HGV?, and can you play tennis? Mite as well take the cream de la creme, before sending the rest to be processed!
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Stirlingsays 14 Sep 21 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
I was aware that some people deny the existence of racism or attempt to redefine what racism is to suit their agenda. It's still a surprise to see this being put forward as a serious idea. We have heard a lot about denial here, without doubt, to deny racism exists is the ultimate denial. I've denied something? I think rather it suits your agenda.....if the history of the word is looked into I think what I've said speaks the truth. Originally posted by kuge
The idea that automation will solve everything is often trotted out. The presentation of an aged population minded by robots might make an interesting SiFi film by it does not suggest a bright future. Japan will make its own choices, maybe they will solve it by increasing the birth rate. Although that's unlikely as I think it would now require every woman of childbearing age in Japan to have 3+ children. I think automation will certainly be part of the answer.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Sep 21 3.52pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
Indeed the film evidence that you present is very weak. When and where were the films made and what was the intention behind the making of the films. If you presented this as a research methodology in an academic context you would be laughed out of the room. What are British genes? It's a constantly shifting profile that was different in 500, 1000, 1300, 1600, 1945, etc As this fascinating study shows there is no such thing as British genes. White people in Britain will likely have all the genetic variants that you posted, but also there will be more recent genes, for instance from Jewish or Irish heritage. You will need to demonstrate what truth has been twisted if your statement is to have any validity. You say that you have heard these arguments before. Please can you outline exactly what you have heard before and why you choose to characterise it as misleading? On genes, you are just wrong. The additional genes you talk about are insignificant. Irish genes are British in my book, just like Scottish or Welsh. You are clutching at straws again. Film or video evidence is very good evidence as long as the context can be established. The police use it all the time. I really don't care what you believe at the end of the day. I trust my own eyes and judgement. A lot of selective statistics and whataboutism makes no difference to simple facts.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Sep 21 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by kuge
You say that you have heard these arguments before. Please can you outline exactly what you have heard before and why you choose to characterise it as misleading? i have heard that paid trolls contribute nothing to an argument. Only contradiction, negativity and insults. that is what i heard. And in other news, Henry viii was black.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Sep 21 4.38pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
i have heard that paid trolls contribute nothing to an argument. Only contradiction, negativity and insults. that is what i heard. And in other news, Henry viii was black. Funny how people just turn up on politics threads with loads of links having never done it before. It's almost like they are part of a sleeper cell.
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DanH SW2 14 Sep 21 7.36pm | |
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Jesus Christ, listen to yourselves you two. These aren’t your boards. Other people are allowed to post too. And people that disagree with you, prove you wrong or make you look silly are not ‘trolls’.
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