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DanH SW2 27 Aug 21 10.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep mate, he's drenched. Conservative with their own bank account and anything related to their finances......left wing on everything else....as long as it doesn't affect them personally.
Literally the most non-sensical ‘insult’ ever (other than ‘soy boy’ which is neither funny nor insulting). Like it should be an insult to have to temerity to earn some money yet still give a sh*t about other people.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 27 Aug 21 10.56pm | |
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WE believes the electorate allowed themselves to be used by pro Brexit forces. I posted this in reply to WE which as far as I can see did not have a reply. "If only the general electorate were as clever and deep thinking as you, allowing themselves to be used, tut tut." Contempt for democratic outcomes didn't work out so well for Labour in the least general election. Opinions are just that, but for some here they are facts.
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Who rattled your cage? Stirling was right about you. You aren't very bright. I'm sure Wisbech appreciates the support of a fellow Lefty.
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Stirlingsays 28 Aug 21 1.41am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Literally the most non-sensical ‘insult’ ever (other than ‘soy boy’ which is neither funny nor insulting). Like it should be an insult to have to temerity to earn some money yet still give a sh*t about other people. Ha! Look at how you want to be seen. I've meet and known this type. People who look at avoiding as much tax as possible, having the best lifestyle as possible and then like you claim to be left wing and socially conscious. You don't live the principles of egalitarianism, you cherry pick them. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2021 1.41am)
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DanH SW2 28 Aug 21 9.26am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ha! Look at how you want to be seen. I've meet and known this type. People who look at avoiding as much tax as possible, having the best lifestyle as possible and then like you claim to be left wing and socially conscious. You don't live the principles of egalitarianism, you cherry pick them. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2021 1.41am) I’m a PAYE employee, I can’t avoid tax even if I wanted to. Why does earning money mean you can’t give a s*** about other people? Surely earning money and still doing good stuff in the world (Marcus Rashford for example) makes you an even better person than someone who makes their fortune and pulls up the drawbridge? Must be tough seeing people with money and a heart when you have neither I guess.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Aug 21 9.55am | |
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True I have to agree money and social conscience are not incompatible. Emma Thompson is a multi millionaire actor, but she cares about the environment. In fact she cares so much she flew from the US to UK and back to be seen at an ER event so people could see her halo close up. Originally posted by DanH
I’m a PAYE employee, I can’t avoid tax even if I wanted to. Why does earning money mean you can’t give a s*** about other people? Surely earning money and still doing good stuff in the world (Marcus Rashford for example) makes you an even better person than someone who makes their fortune and pulls up the drawbridge? Must be tough seeing people with money and a heart when you have neither I guess.
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Stirlingsays 28 Aug 21 10.17am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
I’m a PAYE employee, I can’t avoid tax even if I wanted to. A bit literal isn't it? Most people can't avoid it completely can they....perhaps I should have written 'reduce' so you understood the point better. As I stated, the point is about 'pick and choose' egalitarianism....which is the charge against champagne socialism. (Equality...unless and until it affects me negatively) Originally posted by DanH
Why does earning money mean you can’t give a s*** about other people? Surely earning money and still doing good stuff in the world (Marcus Rashford for example) makes you an even better person than someone who makes their fortune and pulls up the drawbridge? Must be tough seeing people with money and a heart when you have neither I guess. Not what I said. I do ok as it happens.....you're very childish for an accountant. Also, I'd say anyone who has fallen foul of your politics, for example your support for 'racial mix' employment practices might consider your 'have a heart' self image a little misplaced.
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Aug 21 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
He thinks he has moderate views because he’s in the majority on here, whereas in the real world he’s as far to the right as they come. Aw! Your support of a fellow Lefty is touching. Birds of a feather...
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 21 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It has a great deal more involved than just money. It's about priorities and values. I won't try to explain what I am quite sure you already know but if you genuinely want to educate yourself, rather than recite your prejudices, take a look here:-
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Stirlingsays 28 Aug 21 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Aw! Your support of a fellow Lefty is touching. Birds of a feather... Peas in a pod.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 21 10.52am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Lefty. When your opponent has reached the level of debate expected from a playground bully, you know they have lost the argument.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 21 11.01am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep mate, he's drenched. Conservative with their own bank account and anything related to their finances......left wing on everything else....as long as it doesn't affect them personally.
As I have repeatedly told you, I am economically conservative but socially liberal. I believe in an economy that lives within its means, which incentivises wealth creation and innovation, but within a society which teaches moral responsibility to its citizens. I am far from unusual in this. Most decent British people hold these values. They aren't "leftYs" either.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 21 11.18am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
WE believes the electorate allowed themselves to be used by pro Brexit forces. I posted this in reply to WE which as far as I can see did not have a reply. "If only the general electorate were as clever and deep thinking as you, allowing themselves to be used, tut tut." Contempt for democratic outcomes didn't work out so well for Labour in the least general election. Opinions are just that, but for some here they are facts.
I don't think the electorate "allowed" anything to happen. They had no say in the matter. It just happened. It's not just me that thinks that either. Our own security forces do. I have the greatest respect for genuine democratic outcomes! However, the Brexit referendum was not one. In our representative democracy, such a huge decision ought to have never been exposed to the winds of chance inherent in a referendum. Especially when called by Cameron, and Central Office, in the political interests of the Tory Party and not the country. No referendum in the UK should ever be regarded as binding, but only advisory, because we delegate decisions to our representatives. Those representatives, as a collective body, were firmly of the view that we should remain a member. It was a shameful period in our long history, which future generations will come to view as the nemeses of the UK. We will not recover in my lifetime
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