Ok 'sympathiser' was a tad strong. But you certainly are ignoring what is in front of you in order to defend Trump's connections to white quasi-Nazi nationalism. I gave the evidence as you required (from another poster) but you waved it away.

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I do wave that away because it wasn't evidence. I asked for comments and you produced none. Instead you typed about twitter retweets, which we can't be sure about.

I've typed about why Trump is more soft focused on the right. But you ignore it and say I defend Trump's connection to 'white Nazi nationalism'. I just think that's the usual hyperbolic stuff to create your evil bogey man....Trump is your 'other' button. I'm watching the opposite of the tea party and in truth they are little better in terms of the extent of the lengths they will go to.

Hysterical, hyperbolic reactions. In the meantime the world will keep turning.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Promoting far-right others' tweets is comment enough. Words aren't always needed when actions say it all. Evidence is not always verbal and you won't get on his back nor outrightly come down hard on the neo-nazis because they are your enemy's enemy from what I can see.

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I am beginning to wonder if you can read! Do you know what a "Retweet" is? Trump posted a far right Twitter meme on his Twitter account and was roundly condemned for doing so because it conferred that he agreed with it. He has done such stupid things before. It is not the practice on Twitter to repost things you disagree with, unless you subsequently criticise them.

I said, and I meant, that some Israelis show Nazi like tendencies. Not that they were full blown Nazis, as that would be impossible, but on the road to being neo-Nazis. Just as Milo does. I realise that they would reject the epithet, as you have, but that doesn't mean that there is a grain of truth to be faced there.

I am no more a supporter of the Labour party, or any other left wing organisation as I am of the far right or Trump. I follow several Trump supporters FB groups and I read many comments similar to those you have been making, including those that feel that other opinions are crazy. The divide in the USA is so wide these days that it looks impossible to heal. Of course the right blame the Democrats, and especially Obama and Clinton along with anyone who isn't like them, Mexicans, Muslims etc etc. I have encountered some seriously disturbing attitudes from many US citizens who I have known in recent years. Their views on such as guns and race seem from a past age and very alien to British ears.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

This all seems a bit sprawling though. I think it's important to be focused and to not appear to be lashing and thrashing out. There are a lot of problems on the right but we do need to hold a mirror up to its opposite and see how the interplay between these world views doesn't help.

I don't much like listening to the constant forensic examination of every minority group going and people lauding over them, but by the same token I'm definitely not into fixations on cultural appropriation where people lose their minds over a white guy with dreadlocks and the like. All of these attitudes are attempts to control people.

I do understand 'in the now' though, as a result of this white supremacist march why that would be the focus right now. The president does not appear to understand that. Not messing this one up was a gimme. It must be incredibly difficult being in the GOP right now because you're forever cleaning up your own presidents playpen. The tone of a president, as the figurehead of a nation is important.

He didn't need to conjure up some kind of huge imaginary antifa presence at this rally. All of the evidence suggests this was mostly local people besieged by a multitude of organised white supremacist groups. He berated the media and said he'd seen what he happened and understood it better than they do. It was a repeat of his 'crowd' size delusion at the start of his presidency. He always 'knows better' generally while simultaneously saying something that is patently false.

Antifa were at that rally.....they follow the fascists around all the time. And they were involved in violence.

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Does that look like local people to you? They blocked the path and threw the first punch.

This was a fight waiting to happen and it's only going to get worse.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)