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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 16 Jul 14 1.37pm | |
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One significant problem for the Palestines, is they have no coherent strategy or unified spokesperson. They are a fractured group(s) of people from a fractured country. Some want to live as normal a life as possible, others want a political solution, and others want to fight the Israeli land-grabbing machine. Ultimately, shed-loads of Palestinians are dying through indiscriminate Israeli military action, and their homes are being destroyed. Of course Israel was going to accept a ceasefire, knowing full well that some Palestinians would continue fighting. and the world does nothing
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 14 1.47pm | |
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Quote bright&wright at 16 Jul 2014 8.00am
Palastine are bombing Israel. Israel are bombing Palastine. It's not Israel's fault they have bigger and better weapons. Can't remember Hamas giving the Israeli's any warnings before they bombed them? So many people side with the Palastinian's as if they are absolute saints. They ain't. And if it was the other way round they would have taken land off the Isreali's. In fact, most of their mates refuse to even accept Isreal's existence! The persecution of the Jews continues - this time from the looney lefty liberals sticking up for a terrorist organisation like Hamas. Not really like that though is it? I take your point that Hamas are firing rockets (albeit not very good ones) and have even killed one Isreali (allegedly). No-one is really supporting that as far as I'm aware. However, Isreal is really a colonial nation living on pre-WWII principles. There should be no particular Jewish nation but the European Zionists who are nationalist in the extreme (rather ironically) decided that living alongside Arabs was not to their liking. They decided to forge a Jewish nation, by force, out of someone else's country. Althought the history is often not taught to us it was British soldiers who ended up caught up in this - as Palestine was a British mandate. One thing that interests me about the curent situation is that it was caused by a kidnapping and then by the reprisals. This now seems to have been completely forgotten and it shows how the catalyst for violence - even war - can be relatively small. A bit like the killing of the Austrian Archduke pre WWI.
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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 14 2.10pm | |
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Quote Forest Hillbilly at 16 Jul 2014 1.37pm
One significant problem for the Palestines, is they have no coherent strategy or unified spokesperson. They are a fractured group(s) of people from a fractured country. Some want to live as normal a life as possible, others want a political solution, and others want to fight the Israeli land-grabbing machine. Ultimately, shed-loads of Palestinians are dying through indiscriminate Israeli military action, and their homes are being destroyed. Of course Israel was going to accept a ceasefire, knowing full well that some Palestinians would continue fighting. and the world does nothing
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jul 14 2.23pm | |
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Israeli Violations of U.N. Security Council Resolutions If you have half an hour to spare to read the very, very long list.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 14 2.27pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Jul 2014 2.23pm
Israeli Violations of U.N. Security Council Resolutions If you have half an hour to spare to read the very, very long list.
Kind of a model for a new Scotland?
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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 14 2.42pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Jul 2014 2.23pm
Israeli Violations of U.N. Security Council Resolutions If you have half an hour to spare to read the very, very long list.
Israel only listen to America.
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jcreedy 16 Jul 14 2.51pm | |
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Quote bright&wright at 16 Jul 2014 8.00am
Palastine are bombing Israel. Israel are bombing Palastine. It's not Israel's fault they have bigger and better weapons. Can't remember Hamas giving the Israeli's any warnings before they bombed them? So many people side with the Palastinian's as if they are absolute saints. They ain't. And if it was the other way round they would have taken land off the Isreali's. In fact, most of their mates refuse to even accept Isreal's existence! The persecution of the Jews continues - this time from the looney lefty liberals sticking up for a terrorist organisation like Hamas. You're confusing Hamas with the Palestinian people. They're two very different things.
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Jul 14 3.02pm | |
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The problem being, IMO is that the volatile element of Palestine is HAMAS, where as the whole of the Israeli Government is the volatile element. In Northern Ireland deals where made between each "political" enforcement arm, how can you do that when an entire nations (if indeed Israel is a nation) power base is the aggressor. Palestine can't win, and what the Jews are doing is nothing short of war crimes, no different to Putin sticking his nose into Ukraine, the world and NATO where up in arms over that little manoeuvre. But say nothing when Israel sends in tanks to demolish Palestinian homes. I'm no supporter of terrorism including HAMAS, but I can’t help but feel Israel are the ones with the attitude problem.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jul 14 3.15pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Jul 2014 2.10pm
Quote Forest Hillbilly at 16 Jul 2014 1.37pm
One significant problem for the Palestines, is they have no coherent strategy or unified spokesperson. They are a fractured group(s) of people from a fractured country. Some want to live as normal a life as possible, others want a political solution, and others want to fight the Israeli land-grabbing machine. Ultimately, shed-loads of Palestinians are dying through indiscriminate Israeli military action, and their homes are being destroyed. Of course Israel was going to accept a ceasefire, knowing full well that some Palestinians would continue fighting. and the world does nothing
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jul 14 3.15pm | |
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Quote dannyh at 16 Jul 2014 3.02pm
The problem being, IMO is that the volatile element of Palestine is HAMAS, where as the whole of the Israeli Government is the volatile element. In Northern Ireland deals where made between each "political" enforcement arm, how can you do that when an entire nations (if indeed Israel is a nation) power base is the aggressor. Palestine can't win, and what the Jews are doing is nothing short of war crimes, no different to Putin sticking his nose into Ukraine, the world and NATO where up in arms over that little manoeuvre. But say nothing when Israel sends in tanks to demolish Palestinian homes. I'm no supporter of terrorism including HAMAS, but I can’t help but feel Israel are the ones with the attitude problem. Bloody hell. I agree with DannyH-I need a lie down.
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Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jul 14 4.10pm | |
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Quote ASCPFC at 16 Jul 2014 2.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Jul 2014 2.23pm
Israeli Violations of U.N. Security Council Resolutions If you have half an hour to spare to read the very, very long list.
Kind of a model for a new Scotland?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Jul 14 4.27pm | |
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This is indefensible... Probably targeted for skimming stones.
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