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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Jul 24 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


And definitive proof they have written off the election.

Trump is winning in November.

If he sees it.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Jul 24 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Whatever he may have achieved his legacy will be tainted by the fact he didn't step down months ago. No one can seriously have thought he would last another four years in office so should have cleared the way for his successor. The polling figures for Harris aren't great but she's the next cab off the rank. She could conceivably win but whether she'd be any good is moot.

Agree with all of this. It’s a mystery to me why there appears to be no proper succession planning or real bench strength.

 

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eaglesdare Flag 21 Jul 24 10.14pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Has anyone told Biden that he has stepped down? He probably does not even know yet.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Jul 24 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Harris being the candidate is exactly what the Democrats deserve. They have made DEI a centrepiece of their identity politics for decades and now it's going to kick them squarely in the nuts where they deserve it.

Harris is incredibly over promoted, vacuous and...well, quite frankly dim and even worse for her, quite the awkward, unlikeable character.

She stands no chance against Trump.

DEI isn't meritocracy and any organisation that engages in it will eventually suffer for it.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 21 Jul 24 10.19pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Didint trump call this weeks ago from his golf cart?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Jul 24 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Of course it's conceivable but then most things are no matter how unlikely. Biden's determination should have made him step down months ago to give his party the best chance of winning.
The only credit Biden gets is that he's not Trump. Whether that's enough of a credential for the leader of the free world is a matter of personal opinion.

We all get credit for not being Trump. Well almost all. There could be a couple of exceptions. It was Biden’s primary asset in 2020 and I have long argued he should have banked it and stood aside for the next generation, his job being done.

Now he has. Whether the timing proves to be a master stroke, long planned for and calculated to create a clear path to victory time alone will tell.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 21 Jul 24 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We all get credit for not being Trump. Well almost all. There could be a couple of exceptions. It was Biden’s primary asset in 2020 and I have long argued he should have banked it and stood aside for the next generation, his job being done.

Now he has. Whether the timing proves to be a master stroke, long planned for and calculated to create a clear path to victory time alone will tell.

Wasn't there an idea in 2020 that Biden was an interim candidate? If so the fact he's waited until now to step down doesn't indicate he, or anyone else in the party, had much confidence in Harris.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Jul 24 10.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Those here who dismiss Harris with Trumplike criticism are under estimating the lady.

The way some pile on the personal insults just because they don’t approve of her politics is somewhat familiar.

She can be pretty effective and we are likely to see a lot more like this in the coming few months:-

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Jul 24 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Wasn't there an idea in 2020 that Biden was an interim candidate? If so the fact he's waited until now to step down doesn't indicate he, or anyone else in the party, had much confidence in Harris.

Not in 2020, so far as I recall, but from my perspective he was always too old to serve a second term. So should have made that clear early in 2021.

It looks like a bad miscalculation to me. I just hope I am wrong.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Jul 24 7.27am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Those here who dismiss Harris with Trumplike criticism are under estimating the lady.

The way some pile on the personal insults just because they don’t approve of her politics is somewhat familiar.

She can be pretty effective and we are likely to see a lot more like this in the coming few months:-

[Link]

She stood against Biden in the primaries last time and was the first candidate to quit due to a lackluster performance.

Most Americans don't think much of her so she will have to raise her game if she is to stand a chance of beating Trump.

It's a bit like Corbyn stepping aside for Abbott.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Jul 24 7.29am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Pedant alert.

Unfortunately Biden isn't stepping down although he should, somebody should invoke the 25th amendment.

It would not surprise me if the Republicans try something like this not because it will succeed but just to tie the democrats up fire fighting.

Edited by Badger11 (22 Jul 2024 7.31am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Jul 24 8.02am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

She stood against Biden in the primaries last time and was the first candidate to quit due to a lackluster performance.

Most Americans don't think much of her so she will have to raise her game if she is to stand a chance of beating Trump.

It's a bit like Corbyn stepping aside for Abbott.

Biden did though choose her as his VP. There were reasons for that, which are as relevant today as then. There is no doubt that the core Trump vote won’t be flocking to her side but I see none of those who form the core anti-Trump vote leaving her either. So it’s the middle that matters. Can she shift enough of them to make the difference in the key swing states? With many not wanting either Biden or Trump her points of difference could be enough. The burden of age now falls on Trump. So does the burden of the perception of linkage to corruption. For some women being a woman is an asset. For some the colour of her skin is an asset. Trump is unlikely to agree to debate with her, so can be presented as a coward.

Will these be enough? Who knows, but what seems obvious is that the game has changed.

 


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