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cryrst The garden of England 05 Jul 24 6.27pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
No. It was a perfect storm of an SNP collapse, the rise of Reform, poor election timing and campaign, and years of incompetent governance on a scale not seen since...??? The rise of ukip was dealt with very sensibly and gave them their 80 seat majority last time. Brexit being done effectively was the carrot for ukip to depart the polling booths and what a cluster f*** that’s been for most that wanted it. How many tory voters do you think defected to labour compared to reform. The Tories put very little effort into defending their positions so either they lost on purpose or weren’t bothered if they lost. There must be some big doo doo on its way for a party to put little to no effort in. Edited by cryrst (05 Jul 2024 6.28pm)
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beak croydon 05 Jul 24 6.41pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
What's that got to do with the performance of the new government? They are NOT in it.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 7.10pm | |
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Would be nice to try and occasionally post based on the thread title. No historical references needed!! Lammy as Foreign Secretary....
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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Runningman Keston 05 Jul 24 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Would be nice to try and occasionally post based on the thread title. No historical references needed!! Lammy as Foreign Secretary.... Milliband really is swivel eyed in this picture !
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Matov 05 Jul 24 8.32pm | |
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For me, I suspect not much at all until October/November. If I understand things correctly, Parliament effectively goes on its summer recess almost as soon as go back so I cannot imagine much legislation. Key, is what happens at the Labour Party conference. That is when they pulled the second referendum stunt back in November 2018 and when I suspect they might try it again. Or at least sound it out. If my hunch is correct, they will sound it out and then push for a second vote in 2026, possibly doing it on the basis of three options rather than two.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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DANGERCLOSE London 05 Jul 24 11.01pm | |
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And so it begins
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orpingtoneagle Orpington 05 Jul 24 11.14pm | |
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Troup is not as described at one point 'an HMRC official,' he left that role many years ago. He is not even a civil servant any more he is retired. He is also not an adviser to the Chancellor. All he is saying is what everyone knows. Pensions as they stand are a huge cost and as such any government of any colour will always looks tbpe Sion reform. As suspected yet again on here folks will always see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jul 24 11.16pm | |
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The electorate were warned.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 05 Jul 24 11.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
The electorate were warned. That’s rather standard for you Willo. 😒
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jul 24 12.13am | |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Troup is not as described at one point 'an HMRC official,' he left that role many years ago. He is not even a civil servant any more he is retired. He is also not an adviser to the Chancellor. All he is saying is what everyone knows. Pensions as they stand are a huge cost and as such any government of any colour will always looks tbpe Sion reform. As suspected yet again on here folks will always see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe. If you have made your contributions you are entitled to your pension no matter how much you have. Many may well already donate theirs to charity so that could suffer.
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DANGERCLOSE London 06 Jul 24 12.20am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If you have made your contributions you are entitled to your pension no matter how much you have. Many may well already donate theirs to charity so that could suffer. Agreed
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Dubai Eagle 06 Jul 24 5.58am | |
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With Labour having been in opposition for so long I would imagine that as they begin to consider whats possible & take decisions on how to fund the stuff that they are most interested in there will be a lot of suggestions being floated in cabinet meetings, some will of course be a lot more unpopular than others. It remains to be seen which ones make it from ideas into actuality but I do have a strong sense of foreboding about what's to come.
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