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CrazyBadger Ware 17 Jun 24 9.43am
Originally posted by Willo After the first 30 mins our performance was very disappointing. Unable to retain possession, a dearth of rhythm and fluency, Pickford thwacking the ball long to those who were outmuscled by muscular opponents.We lost control of the game. Indeed we got the all-important victory but I suspect the team and manager will face shot and shell from the media. I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 17 Jun 24 9.43am

Originally posted by Willo

After the first 30 mins our performance was very disappointing.
Unable to retain possession, a dearth of rhythm and fluency, Pickford thwacking the ball long to those who were outmuscled by muscular opponents.We lost control of the game.

Indeed we got the all-important victory but I suspect the team and manager will face shot and shell from the media.

I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 24 9.54am
Originally posted by CrazyBadger I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing. I understand your assertion, however at least we had some control in the opening half hour, albeit some of the build-up play was tedious and uninspiring.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 24 9.54am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing.

I understand your assertion, however at least we had some control in the opening half hour, albeit some of the build-up play was tedious and uninspiring.

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Jacey 17 Jun 24 10.10am
Originally posted by CrazyBadger I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing. Clearly,Southgate has been tutored by Mr.Hodgson,the destroyer of the beautiful game.
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Jacey

17 Jun 24 10.10am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Clearly,Southgate has been tutored by Mr.Hodgson,the destroyer of the beautiful game.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 17 Jun 24 10.17am
Ollie for England! Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Teddy Eagle 17 Jun 24 10.21am
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Ollie for England! Maybe he'll bring Stan with him.
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17 Jun 24 10.21am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Ollie for England!

Maybe he'll bring Stan with him.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 24 10.22am
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Ollie for England! As I witnessed the drivel last night I readily admit that my cerebral matter veered in the direction of concluding that had Oliver Glasner been manager the performance would have been greatly enhanced.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 24 10.22am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Ollie for England!

As I witnessed the drivel last night I readily admit that my cerebral matter veered in the direction of concluding that had Oliver Glasner been manager the performance would have been greatly enhanced.

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MrRobbo Chaldon 17 Jun 24 10.23am
Originally posted by CrazyBadger I wasn't even that impressed with the first first 30 mins! playing slow, tedious boring football, struggling to break down a 'well organised' side. then it actually went and worked and we scored the first goal. I expected us to then free up and really show what we can do when Serbia chased the game. We created 1 chance in 30 mins. With our plethora of 'world class' attacking talent that's massively disappointing. I agree, we had control of the ball, but without that Bellingham goal, had zero penetration. 3 shots on target in 90 mins. That is embarrassing given the talent in that team. Watching Germany or Spain, we are miles behind them.
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MrRobbo

Chaldon 17 Jun 24 10.23am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I agree, we had control of the ball, but without that Bellingham goal, had zero penetration. 3 shots on target in 90 mins. That is embarrassing given the talent in that team.

Watching Germany or Spain, we are miles behind them.

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YT Oxford 17 Jun 24 10.28am
Originally posted by MrRobbo This is the most demoralising part. GS didnt seam to bothered about the 2nd half performance. Did their keeper only really have to make 2 saves (Kane and Trent). We'll win the group, I suspect with 7 points (Danes may hold us). And we'll excuse the performances with the fact that we are winning. And by god we'll be in for a shock when we play a decent team. You are right, he didn't. In a snippet shown on the telly this morning he summarised that "we were forced to suffer more than we would have wanted". Why were we "forced" and how much did we want to suffer if not as much as we did? Even Mrs YT, who knows nothing at all about football other than the fact that I support CPFC and that they have a lot of black players, said "why didn't he (Southgate) do something about it then, rather than just sit and watch it happen?!" Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 17 Jun 24 10.28am

Originally posted by MrRobbo

This is the most demoralising part. GS didnt seam to bothered about the 2nd half performance. Did their keeper only really have to make 2 saves (Kane and Trent).

We'll win the group, I suspect with 7 points (Danes may hold us). And we'll excuse the performances with the fact that we are winning. And by god we'll be in for a shock when we play a decent team.

You are right, he didn't. In a snippet shown on the telly this morning he summarised that "we were forced to suffer more than we would have wanted". Why were we "forced" and how much did we want to suffer if not as much as we did? Even Mrs YT, who knows nothing at all about football other than the fact that I support CPFC and that they have a lot of black players, said "why didn't he (Southgate) do something about it then, rather than just sit and watch it happen?!"

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 17 Jun 24 10.30am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Maybe he'll bring Stan with him. That's another fine mess. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 17 Jun 24 10.30am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Maybe he'll bring Stan with him.

That's another fine mess.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 17 Jun 24 12.01pm
To try and be positive, it was a win and a clean sheet. Pressure is off now. I'd rather we peaked later in the tournament than the beginning. For me, one of the biggest concerns was his interview afterwards, Southgate learned that 'we need to conserve our energy better in the first half'. What the hell was he watching? He's deluded. I think we'd all prefer something along the lines of 'we were disjointed and struggled, but ultimately we ground out a win after a tough night. We need to improve'. With the array of attacking talent we have in the squad, 3 shots on target against a fairly average side is pathetic. Tactics were too negative after going ahead, Foden was lost, Kane non existent. These are world class players performing every week at some of the best clubs in the world. If it wasn't for a decent save from Pickford, we'd have thrown that away. To think he was recently linked with Manchester United is laughable. I don't think a single Premier League club would be interested. He's a nice bloke who's created a positive atmosphere around the national team. He's tactically miles behind the other managers. I hope he makes me eat my words.
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The Cronx 17 Jun 24 12.01pm

To try and be positive, it was a win and a clean sheet. Pressure is off now. I'd rather we peaked later in the tournament than the beginning.

For me, one of the biggest concerns was his interview afterwards, Southgate learned that 'we need to conserve our energy better in the first half'. What the hell was he watching? He's deluded.

I think we'd all prefer something along the lines of 'we were disjointed and struggled, but ultimately we ground out a win after a tough night. We need to improve'.

With the array of attacking talent we have in the squad, 3 shots on target against a fairly average side is pathetic. Tactics were too negative after going ahead, Foden was lost, Kane non existent. These are world class players performing every week at some of the best clubs in the world. If it wasn't for a decent save from Pickford, we'd have thrown that away.

To think he was recently linked with Manchester United is laughable. I don't think a single Premier League club would be interested.

He's a nice bloke who's created a positive atmosphere around the national team. He's tactically miles behind the other managers.

I hope he makes me eat my words.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jun 24 12.26pm
Several players barely touched the ball. Was nowhere near good enough. Frankly, I don't see it changing. Glaringly obvious to everyone that the system is wrong. Who are the England coaches? Surely they can see it. Up front, they don't know whether to stay wide or come inside, at the back the wing backs do nothing. Particularly Trippier offers no width - no surprise as he is not a left back. Was it theoretically Walker on the other side? It wasn't the job he was doing. What was Alexander-Arnold doing? His main job seemed to be to annoy set piece takers - another area where England have worsened. Then there's the pass to side to side and no movement. I don't know what to say - go to three at the back? Walker, Stones, Guehi? There aren't any decent wingbacks are there - so no. Go four, four, two - don't think anyone can partner Kane, four, four, one, one - no holding player. The whole squad seems to be based on Rice who currently doesn't seem to offer much. It's baffling, it's boring and it's not even that great defensively. Serbia made England look rubbish second half. It's clear that England are not going all the way like this. As others have stated - several teams look better currently. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jun 24 12.26pm

Several players barely touched the ball. Was nowhere near good enough. Frankly, I don't see it changing. Glaringly obvious to everyone that the system is wrong. Who are the England coaches? Surely they can see it.
Up front, they don't know whether to stay wide or come inside, at the back the wing backs do nothing. Particularly Trippier offers no width - no surprise as he is not a left back. Was it theoretically Walker on the other side? It wasn't the job he was doing. What was Alexander-Arnold doing? His main job seemed to be to annoy set piece takers - another area where England have worsened.
Then there's the pass to side to side and no movement. I don't know what to say - go to three at the back? Walker, Stones, Guehi? There aren't any decent wingbacks are there - so no. Go four, four, two - don't think anyone can partner Kane, four, four, one, one - no holding player. The whole squad seems to be based on Rice who currently doesn't seem to offer much.
It's baffling, it's boring and it's not even that great defensively. Serbia made England look rubbish second half.
It's clear that England are not going all the way like this.
As others have stated - several teams look better currently.

Red and Blue Army!

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Paaalaaace Croydon 17 Jun 24 3.06pm
And only one corner whole match! Originally posted by MrRobbo I agree, we had control of the ball, but without that Bellingham goal, had zero penetration. 3 shots on target in 90 mins. That is embarrassing given the talent in that team. Watching Germany or Spain, we are miles behind them.
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Croydon 17 Jun 24 3.06pm

And only one corner whole match!

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I agree, we had control of the ball, but without that Bellingham goal, had zero penetration. 3 shots on target in 90 mins. That is embarrassing given the talent in that team.

Watching Germany or Spain, we are miles behind them.

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