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beak croydon 26 Mar 24 4.41pm | |
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I might be wrong but this looks like a cash flow deal.
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Midlands Eagle 26 Mar 24 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by beak
I might be wrong but this looks like a cash flow deal. Which is what I said a page or so back but everyone ignored that as they had conspiracy theories to consider
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Elpis In a pub 26 Mar 24 5.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Which is what I said a page or so back but everyone ignored that as they had conspiracy theories to consider Like the yanks making sure they get a pay day even if its just the interest on the loans
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Mar 24 5.07pm | |
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Originally posted by beak
I might be wrong but this looks like a cash flow deal. That was how I read it. What we need to look for is when we pay the loan off? If it gets rolled over year after year then clearly it is debt. Hopefully as one poster said it means we can buy targets without the pressure of having to sell first. So we may buy a centre back at the start of the window and hold out selling Guehi until the price is right.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Mar 24 6.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst the only source for this story is the Mail it appears authoritative and based on knowledge. Unlike the spin which many Mail stories contain! How big and precisely why isn't said but it does look as though something is cooking behind the scenes and maybe we need short-term bridging finance to get someone in, before we move one, or more, out. Only time will tell, because the club won't. We all know you don't like the Mail. So, go back to where you think you are superior & leave us supporters alone. Off you go, no one's interested on these threads what you think, bye
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Plumpton eagle East Sussex 26 Mar 24 6.51pm | |
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eagleman13 We all know you don't like the Mail. So, go back to where you think you are superior & leave us supporters alone. Off you go, no one's interested on these threads what you think, bye ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please don't speak on my behalf. Who exactly are "us supporters"? It's a Palace forum. What's wrong with anyone (particularly a long standing forum member) joining in the chat? If you don't like someones opinions skip them and move on. Maybe "us supporters" don't want you calling people out on our behalf. When on the Palace forum, why not concentrate on what unifies us rather than look for wedges to drive us apart? Anyway, maybe this new approach by Palace ties in with the appointment of Glasner. I get the impression he is not interested in PL survival every year and wants to move us onwards and upwards. When interviewed, he must have told the board that investment in new players will be needed. Palace may have made certain commitments to him in that respect. This new funding approach might be another signal that we are going to try and move forward from next season.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Mar 24 7.35pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
We all know you don't like the Mail. So, go back to where you think you are superior & leave us supporters alone. Off you go, no one's interested on these threads what you think, bye Don't let it bother you mate. They can't kill you and they can't... Well, you know.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Mar 24 8.22pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Don't let it bother you mate. They can't kill you and they can't... Well, you know.
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Ali_Campbell New Addington 27 Mar 24 9.02am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Almost all football clubs lose money - I don’t disagree with the points, however the club has still racked up more losses. Unlike many other clubs, the losses are underwritten by the owners etc… our owners are loaning us the money and we are paying interest on their loans. They have not been converted into shares like other clubs, they are expecting the money back. Our other board member/ceo takes a salary of around 2m a year. He has taken approximately 16m put the club in his tenure. The mistake is comparing us to other clubs. We are trying to be more sustainable whilst paying back the debt, whilst building a new stand. Whilst remaining competitive in the league…..all equals more debt and loans.
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Dubai Eagle 27 Mar 24 10.10am | |
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Hi Ali - Our losses have been reducing year on year which indicates that we have a handle on the situation & its being managed better now than previously (down from £60 Million / £40 Million / £24 Million Our main Shareholders are a group of 4 as opposed to say Forest where one mans decisions on investment are conclusive & if he choses to write off losses its his decision alone Borrowing money from the market formalises the transaction & the flow of money is properly documented & recognised as a club transaction rather than one individual putting his hand in his pocket. When John Textor invested & joined he did so with the purchase of shares & has increased his interest in the club since - Steve Parish does not take £2 million out of the club every year - this is recorded in the clubs accounts - without checking every years figures I think its about £800,000 per year, on years where he has received more in terms of bonuses its documented that he reinvested (or has indicated that he intends to reinvest) them back into the club. Football clubs tend to make money when they are successful or when they are sold - I dont think anyone can argue that CPFC isnt worth a whole lot more now than it was in 2010 or when the Americans came on board. That's as I see things, for sure others will see it differently - Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Almost all football clubs lose money - I don’t disagree with the points, however the club has still racked up more losses. Unlike many other clubs, the losses are underwritten by the owners etc… our owners are loaning us the money and we are paying interest on their loans. They have not been converted into shares like other clubs, they are expecting the money back. Our other board member/ceo takes a salary of around 2m a year. He has taken approximately 16m put the club in his tenure. The mistake is comparing us to other clubs. We are trying to be more sustainable whilst paying back the debt, whilst building a new stand. Whilst remaining competitive in the league…..all equals more debt and loans.
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Badger11 Beckenham 27 Mar 24 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Hi Ali - Our losses have been reducing year on year which indicates that we have a handle on the situation & its being managed better now than previously (down from £60 Million / £40 Million / £24 Million Our main Shareholders are a group of 4 as opposed to say Forest where one mans decisions on investment are conclusive & if he choses to write off losses its his decision alone Borrowing money from the market formalises the transaction & the flow of money is properly documented & recognised as a club transaction rather than one individual putting his hand in his pocket. When John Textor invested & joined he did so with the purchase of shares & has increased his interest in the club since - Steve Parish does not take £2 million out of the club every year - this is recorded in the clubs accounts - without checking every years figures I think its about £800,000 per year, on years where he has received more in terms of bonuses its documented that he reinvested (or has indicated that he intends to reinvest) them back into the club. Football clubs tend to make money when they are successful or when they are sold - I dont think anyone can argue that CPFC isnt worth a whole lot more now than it was in 2010 or when the Americans came on board. That's as I see things, for sure others will see it differently - Posters keep mentioning this, not sure why. Unlike the other investors Parish is the full time manager of the club so whether he gets paid £800,000 or £2m this is his compensation for that role. If he steps back someone else will have to be paid to do it. If I was an investor I would be happy with Parish's job performance.
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Dubai Eagle 27 Mar 24 10.58am | |
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For the first few years following 2010 he didnt take a salary at all - Originally posted by Badger11
Posters keep mentioning this, not sure why. Unlike the other investors Parish is the full time manager of the club so whether he gets paid £800,000 or £2m this is his compensation for that role. If he steps back someone else will have to be paid to do it. If I was an investor I would be happy with Parish's job performance.
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