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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jun 23 7.26pm
Originally posted by Zaha127 And that is why investment is required. Whether you are Roy, Kompany, Carrick, Potter, Rodgers etc if the team is not improved then you can easily find yourself in a relegation fight. But I think the key thing is sensible spending teams like Brighton, Fulham and Brentford show that you do not need to spend £80 to £100m every season. Important thing for Palace is retention making sure Eze, Guehi, Andersen, Olise, Doucoure all stay for the long term and they invest the squad not necessarily £80m every season but have a season where they spend on 3 to 4 players and thereafter pushing through academy also. Edited by Zaha127 (10 Jun 2023 4.47pm) I think you'll find that both Brighton and Fulham have spent considerable sums over the last 5 years or so. Where Brighton have come up trumps is that they have managed to sell a few of their cheap investments for considerable amounts and so their Nett spend looks impressive.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jun 23 7.26pm

Originally posted by Zaha127

And that is why investment is required. Whether you are Roy, Kompany, Carrick, Potter, Rodgers etc if the team is not improved then you can easily find yourself in a relegation fight. But I think the key thing is sensible spending teams like Brighton, Fulham and Brentford show that you do not need to spend £80 to £100m every season. Important thing for Palace is retention making sure Eze, Guehi, Andersen, Olise, Doucoure all stay for the long term and they invest the squad not necessarily £80m every season but have a season where they spend on 3 to 4 players and thereafter pushing through academy also.

Edited by Zaha127 (10 Jun 2023 4.47pm)

I think you'll find that both Brighton and Fulham have spent considerable sums over the last 5 years or so. Where Brighton have come up trumps is that they have managed to sell a few of their cheap investments for considerable amounts and so their Nett spend looks impressive.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jun 23 7.30pm
Originally posted by EagleAlan78 Don’t get the whole obsession that Hodgson is guaranteed survival and everyone is happy with just that. Firstly he isn’t guaranteed to keep us up. Him coming back for the last 10 games the effect won’t last through next season. Things went sour the end of the last permanent spell yet pepole all of a sudden want to bottle the rebuild and resort back to just staying up. Which to me is pointless because next season or the season after we will just go down and end up not coming back up. We’re better taking a big risk and trying to get into the top 8 one year then top 6 after. It can be done. You don’t need to spend loads to be up there. Just wisely and have a manager that accepts nothing but wins. Palace have no standards. I do remember Goldberg and the Simon Jordan era. I much prefer Simon Jordan as a chairman than Steve parish. Parish is better with finances but Simon Jordan was far better at football decisions. If Jordan was better with the financial side I’d personally walk over broken glass to have him back. It’s pathetic. If we’re just gonna try and stay up every season they should lower ticket prices all merchandise and be honest. Definitely something that doesn’t interest me and makes me fall out of love with the club In that case - goodbye! Why not go and find a plastic club to support.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Jun 23 7.30pm

Originally posted by EagleAlan78

Don’t get the whole obsession that Hodgson is guaranteed survival and everyone is happy with just that. Firstly he isn’t guaranteed to keep us up. Him coming back for the last 10 games the effect won’t last through next season. Things went sour the end of the last permanent spell yet pepole all of a sudden want to bottle the rebuild and resort back to just staying up. Which to me is pointless because next season or the season after we will just go down and end up not coming back up. We’re better taking a big risk and trying to get into the top 8 one year then top 6 after. It can be done. You don’t need to spend loads to be up there. Just wisely and have a manager that accepts nothing but wins. Palace have no standards. I do remember Goldberg and the Simon Jordan era. I much prefer Simon Jordan as a chairman than Steve parish. Parish is better with finances but Simon Jordan was far better at football decisions. If Jordan was better with the financial side I’d personally walk over broken glass to have him back. It’s pathetic. If we’re just gonna try and stay up every season they should lower ticket prices all merchandise and be honest. Definitely something that doesn’t interest me and makes me fall out of love with the club

In that case - goodbye! Why not go and find a plastic club to support.

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Knightstar Guildford 10 Jun 23 8.55pm
Well said!
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Guildford 10 Jun 23 8.55pm

Well said!

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Painter Croydon 10 Jun 23 8.59pm
Originally posted by EagleAlan78 Seems very much like unfortunately it’s gonna be another year if Hodgson. Are we actually even searching for a replacement or is parish just making it drag on so he can make out his tried to find someone else? No links other than potter and that has gone silent. Seems like we have no ambition at all. Also very convenient that it has gone quiet and Hodgson is on holiday? Edited by EagleAlan78 (10 Jun 2023 12.38pm) Joined 3rd June everyone of your posts has been anti Hodgson or Parish. Trolling.
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Painter

Croydon 10 Jun 23 8.59pm

Originally posted by EagleAlan78

Seems very much like unfortunately it’s gonna be another year if Hodgson. Are we actually even searching for a replacement or is parish just making it drag on so he can make out his tried to find someone else? No links other than potter and that has gone silent. Seems like we have no ambition at all. Also very convenient that it has gone quiet and Hodgson is on holiday?

Edited by EagleAlan78 (10 Jun 2023 12.38pm)

Joined 3rd June everyone of your posts has been anti Hodgson or Parish.

Trolling.

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Zaha127 10 Jun 23 9.09pm
People are also forgetting that Hodgson had to play a certain way before because the team was too reliant on Zaha. That is not the case now you have Olise and Eze. You have a better defence now with Guehi and Andersen. You have Doucoure who is a big upgrade on Luka and Jairo. It is not all doom and gloom. They have also signed Lerma now another welcomed addition in midfield. You are only as good as what you are given Roy does not control what the owners will spend. We would all love a new RB, winger and clinical striker whether that happens we will find out. We might get 1 or 2 more signings if we are lucky.
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10 Jun 23 9.09pm

People are also forgetting that Hodgson had to play a certain way before because the team was too reliant on Zaha. That is not the case now you have Olise and Eze. You have a better defence now with Guehi and Andersen. You have Doucoure who is a big upgrade on Luka and Jairo.

It is not all doom and gloom. They have also signed Lerma now another welcomed addition in midfield. You are only as good as what you are given Roy does not control what the owners will spend. We would all love a new RB, winger and clinical striker whether that happens we will find out. We might get 1 or 2 more signings if we are lucky.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Jun 23 9.34pm
Are we even bothering discussing? Apparently so. Yes, two new full backs, a covering CB, maybe another CM, a winger or two and a striker, alongside a top class manager would be nice. There is also reality however. Leicester won the PL 7 years ago. Relegated. Everton have spent tons, had the likes of Ancelotti, Benitez, Koeman and Martinez - Nearly relegated last two years. Leeds tried to be revolutionary. Relegated. Southampton too. Relegated. Watford have thrown the kitchen sink at things and are a laughing stock. The list does and will go on. Our improvement might be incremental and therefore slow however even a static existence is almost certainly preferable to any plummet. If I had been at the reigns we’d of seen Palace win the champions league by now I’m sure however I’ve not much complaint with our current and continued state. There’s theory and hypotheses with nothing at stake and there is the actual management of a football club with limitations. This has been done successfully for a period now and the wish for more is natural however does not excuse ridiculous whining. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Jun 23 9.34pm

Are we even bothering discussing? Apparently so.

Yes, two new full backs, a covering CB, maybe another CM, a winger or two and a striker, alongside a top class manager would be nice. There is also reality however.

Leicester won the PL 7 years ago. Relegated.
Everton have spent tons, had the likes of Ancelotti, Benitez, Koeman and Martinez - Nearly relegated last two years.
Leeds tried to be revolutionary. Relegated.
Southampton too. Relegated.
Watford have thrown the kitchen sink at things and are a laughing stock.
The list does and will go on.

Our improvement might be incremental and therefore slow however even a static existence is almost certainly preferable to any plummet.

If I had been at the reigns we’d of seen Palace win the champions league by now I’m sure however I’ve not much complaint with our current and continued state. There’s theory and hypotheses with nothing at stake and there is the actual management of a football club with limitations. This has been done successfully for a period now and the wish for more is natural however does not excuse ridiculous whining.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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dg1937 10 Jun 23 10.11pm
Originally posted by Zaha127 Would not mind someone like Potter now. Or if he wants a break get Roy for one final year and then you can also target other managers next year: Potter, Kompany, Carrick etc.. I would not mind if Palace got Potter, Kompany or Carrick meaning Roy stays one final year. The main thing is backing Roy or the new incoming manager. Lerma is a good signing. If Palace can also get a RB, winger and clinical striker they have given the manager the tools to reach top 10 at a minimum and possibly chase for Europe in some capacity (Conference League). I think the main thing is regardless of who comes they need to be given the tools (another 3 players) whether that is Roy for another year or anyone else they should aim for top 10 at the least. Even this year Palace had an up and down season they drew and lost some games which they should have either got 3 pts or at least draws from the losses so they should have really got top 10 but results did not go their way. I think the Man City Palace game was a perfect example 2-0 up and then losing 4-2 how did that happen? You may not have noticed that City are quite a good team?
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dg1937

10 Jun 23 10.11pm

Originally posted by Zaha127

Would not mind someone like Potter now. Or if he wants a break get Roy for one final year and then you can also target other managers next year: Potter, Kompany, Carrick etc..

I would not mind if Palace got Potter, Kompany or Carrick meaning Roy stays one final year. The main thing is backing Roy or the new incoming manager. Lerma is a good signing. If Palace can also get a RB, winger and clinical striker they have given the manager the tools to reach top 10 at a minimum and possibly chase for Europe in some capacity (Conference League).

I think the main thing is regardless of who comes they need to be given the tools (another 3 players) whether that is Roy for another year or anyone else they should aim for top 10 at the least. Even this year Palace had an up and down season they drew and lost some games which they should have either got 3 pts or at least draws from the losses so they should have really got top 10 but results did not go their way. I think the Man City Palace game was a perfect example 2-0 up and then losing 4-2 how did that happen?

You may not have noticed that City are quite a good team?

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Alexi_the_Eagle Newton-le-Willows 10 Jun 23 10.41pm
Originally posted by EagleAlan78 Don’t get the whole obsession that Hodgson is guaranteed survival and everyone is happy with just that. Firstly he isn’t guaranteed to keep us up. Him coming back for the last 10 games the effect won’t last through next season. Things went sour the end of the last permanent spell yet pepole all of a sudden want to bottle the rebuild and resort back to just staying up. Which to me is pointless because next season or the season after we will just go down and end up not coming back up. We’re better taking a big risk and trying to get into the top 8 one year then top 6 after. It can be done. You don’t need to spend loads to be up there. Just wisely and have a manager that accepts nothing but wins. Palace have no standards. I do remember Goldberg and the Simon Jordan era. I much prefer Simon Jordan as a chairman than Steve parish. Parish is better with finances but Simon Jordan was far better at football decisions. If Jordan was better with the financial side I’d personally walk over broken glass to have him back. It’s pathetic. If we’re just gonna try and stay up every season they should lower ticket prices all merchandise and be honest. Definitely something that doesn’t interest me and makes me fall out of love with the club You and your delusions can kindly do one. "Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"
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Originally posted by EagleAlan78

Don’t get the whole obsession that Hodgson is guaranteed survival and everyone is happy with just that. Firstly he isn’t guaranteed to keep us up. Him coming back for the last 10 games the effect won’t last through next season. Things went sour the end of the last permanent spell yet pepole all of a sudden want to bottle the rebuild and resort back to just staying up. Which to me is pointless because next season or the season after we will just go down and end up not coming back up. We’re better taking a big risk and trying to get into the top 8 one year then top 6 after. It can be done. You don’t need to spend loads to be up there. Just wisely and have a manager that accepts nothing but wins. Palace have no standards. I do remember Goldberg and the Simon Jordan era. I much prefer Simon Jordan as a chairman than Steve parish. Parish is better with finances but Simon Jordan was far better at football decisions. If Jordan was better with the financial side I’d personally walk over broken glass to have him back. It’s pathetic. If we’re just gonna try and stay up every season they should lower ticket prices all merchandise and be honest. Definitely something that doesn’t interest me and makes me fall out of love with the club

You and your delusions can kindly do one.

"Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"

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EagleAlan78 Southampton 10 Jun 23 11.34pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 Oh, I would so enjoy reading the argument for that - please provide the evidence. I'll get the popcorn out and get comfy. This will be good. Please remember, in your argument, that the four most expensive strikers that Jordan bought included Shefki Kuqi, Ivan Kaviedes and Ade Akinbiyi. The fourth was Clinton Morrison. Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be a even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me.
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EagleAlan78

Southampton 10 Jun 23 11.34pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

Oh, I would so enjoy reading the argument for that - please provide the evidence. I'll get the popcorn out and get comfy. This will be good.

Please remember, in your argument, that the four most expensive strikers that Jordan bought included Shefki Kuqi, Ivan Kaviedes and Ade Akinbiyi. The fourth was Clinton Morrison.

Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be a even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me.

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Alexi_the_Eagle Newton-le-Willows 11 Jun 23 6.49am
Originally posted by EagleAlan78 Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be an even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me. Can you hear yourself talk? "Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"
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Newton-le-Willows 11 Jun 23 6.49am

Originally posted by EagleAlan78

Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be an even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me.

Can you hear yourself talk?

"Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"

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VinceHilaire London 11 Jun 23 7.14am
I just have the gut feeling that the manager situation is already sorted! There is still a few weeks until preseason, and I’m sure an announcement will be made in due course.
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London 11 Jun 23 7.14am

I just have the gut feeling that the manager situation is already sorted! There is still a few weeks until preseason, and I’m sure an announcement will be made in due course.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 11 Jun 23 8.11am
Originally posted by EagleAlan78 Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be an even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me. Sorry but what a load of old cobblers, success for us with all the money being thrown around by other clubs is just staying in the premier league, which Parish is managing to do. Believe me I like Jordan, life was never dull with him in charge and he had a good go at it, but just because Parish doesn’t throw money around on players we can’t afford, doesn’t mean he wants success any less than him Wigan, Pompey and Brum might have a major trophy in the cabinet, great memories for the fans, but long term it didn’t do them much good did it? Look at the state they’ve all been in in recent years since
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 11 Jun 23 8.11am

Originally posted by EagleAlan78

Ok he made mistakes was still the youngest chairman to take the club into the premier league. He openly admits the mistakes he made if you actually listen to him. My point is he cares more about success than parish does. Parish has a lot of the fan base wrapped round his little finger and they will except mid table every season and no ambition to do any better. They also belief the PR stunts he pulls two or three times a season to get everyone on track like the one v forest where he said we’re going to go to the next level. It’s clear. Pepole getting carried away with Hodgson is another story. Saying we 100% will not go down. Personally I think we will under him. If he is appointed we will have this same conversation in may and I guarantee we will be down there. He will of gone by then and it will be an even worse story than his previous end of reign that turned riddiculously sour. The fact that pepole are wanting Hodgson another year sums up a large part of our fanbase. Ecspecialy after a lot of these pepole wanted him gone the first time he was here and wanted a young manager and to develop as a club. All very backwards and hypocritical to me.

Sorry but what a load of old cobblers, success for us with all the money being thrown around by other clubs is just staying in the premier league, which Parish is managing to do. Believe me I like Jordan, life was never dull with him in charge and he had a good go at it, but just because Parish doesn’t throw money around on players we can’t afford, doesn’t mean he wants success any less than him
Wigan, Pompey and Brum might have a major trophy in the cabinet, great memories for the fans, but long term it didn’t do them much good did it? Look at the state they’ve all been in in recent years since

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