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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 23 2.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Many people think Lennon became an American citizen but I think it was a green card and he never gave up the British nationality. He did consider himself English but both Lennon and McCartney have obvious Irish roots.....Liverpool being the Irish who can swim. They both supported Irish independence but Yoko denies that Lennon funded the IRA due to pacifism. Who knows. To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it. Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Many people think Lennon became an American citizen but I think it was a green card and he never gave up the British nationality.

He did consider himself English but both Lennon and McCartney have obvious Irish roots.....Liverpool being the Irish who can swim.

They both supported Irish independence but Yoko denies that Lennon funded the IRA due to pacifism.

Who knows.

To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it.

Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature.

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Stirlingsays 10 Jun 23 2.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it. Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature. Half my family are Ulster Scots so I'm not exactly objective on this matter. Yep, I make you right about Lennon. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 2.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jun 23 2.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it.

Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature.

Half my family are Ulster Scots so I'm not exactly objective on this matter.

Yep, I make you right about Lennon.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 2.29pm)

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Stirlingsays 10 Jun 23 2.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it. Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature. Looks like your UFO stuff might be starting to bear fruit. Mind you Musk said he'd never heard of evidence for aliens.....but that could be because he is one. Obviously that's a joke....he's an African American. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jun 23 2.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

To be fair. I'm not sure that Irish independence is a bad concept, just the methods employed to achieve it.

Lennon was clever, but he was also naive when it came to human nature.

Looks like your UFO stuff might be starting to bear fruit.

Mind you Musk said he'd never heard of evidence for aliens.....but that could be because he is one.

Obviously that's a joke....he's an African American.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 10 Jun 23 2.49pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Apologies. I mistook your humour for stupidity. But since I missed out a whole ass in assassination, I'm in no position to judge right now. No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 10 Jun 23 2.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Apologies. I mistook your humour for stupidity.

But since I missed out a whole ass in assassination, I'm in no position to judge right now.

No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best

Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me

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Stirlingsays 10 Jun 23 2.54pm
Originally posted by monkey No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me They went. And they are planning to go back. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jun 23 2.54pm

Originally posted by monkey

No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best

Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me

They went.

And they are planning to go back.

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Teddy Eagle 10 Jun 23 5.45pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Wife beater, Pro IRA, Anti British & erstwhile scumbag by all accounts & just listening to Imagine makes me want to vomit. Edited by Jimenez (10 Jun 2023 12.21pm) He wrote some great songs but...Imagine no possessions from someone who kept a separate apartment in the Dakota building to store his fur coats at the correct temperature? Hard to believe he was only famous for 17 years and disappeared for 5 of those during which time he came up with Double Fantasy which had it been released by Barry Manilow* would have been laughed out of town. * insert schlockmeister of choice.
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10 Jun 23 5.45pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Wife beater, Pro IRA, Anti British & erstwhile scumbag by all accounts & just listening to Imagine makes me want to vomit.

Edited by Jimenez (10 Jun 2023 12.21pm)

He wrote some great songs but...Imagine no possessions from someone who kept a separate apartment in the Dakota building to store his fur coats at the correct temperature?
Hard to believe he was only famous for 17 years and disappeared for 5 of those during which time he came up with Double Fantasy which had it been released by Barry Manilow* would have been laughed out of town.

* insert schlockmeister of choice.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 23 6.21pm
Originally posted by monkey No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me As appealing as it is to imagine a Capricorn One scenario, it just doesn't stand close examination. We went there. The more interesting question is why we haven't been back for 50 plus years. The boring answer is that there was no point, given the enormous cost. The more entertaining idea is that there are alien bases there and or we have been back secretly.
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10 Jun 23 6.21pm

Originally posted by monkey

No you’re right, stupidity is about right, it’s what I do best

Now if it was the so called moon landings conspiracy theories, I would be much more interested, that does fascinate me

As appealing as it is to imagine a Capricorn One scenario, it just doesn't stand close examination.
We went there.

The more interesting question is why we haven't been back for 50 plus years.

The boring answer is that there was no point, given the enormous cost.
The more entertaining idea is that there are alien bases there and or we have been back secretly.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 23 6.27pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Looks like your UFO stuff might be starting to bear fruit. Mind you Musk said he'd never heard of evidence for aliens.....but that could be because he is one. Obviously that's a joke....he's an African American. Well something is clearly going on, and if you look at it historically, it seems very unlikely that we had technology like has apparently been tracked by the military, especially decades ago, unless we stole it from the ETs. I am a believer because of what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears. If you have no personal experience, then it's reasonable to be on the fence.
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10 Jun 23 6.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Looks like your UFO stuff might be starting to bear fruit.

Mind you Musk said he'd never heard of evidence for aliens.....but that could be because he is one.

Obviously that's a joke....he's an African American.

Well something is clearly going on, and if you look at it historically, it seems very unlikely that we had technology like has apparently been tracked by the military, especially decades ago, unless we stole it from the ETs.

I am a believer because of what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears.
If you have no personal experience, then it's reasonable to be on the fence.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 23 6.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Half my family are Ulster Scots so I'm not exactly objective on this matter. Yep, I make you right about Lennon. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 2.29pm) I had a 3x great grandmother from Belfast, but have no 'Irish' genes. I do have some Scottish ones though, och aye! Does that count? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2023 6.33pm)
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10 Jun 23 6.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Half my family are Ulster Scots so I'm not exactly objective on this matter.

Yep, I make you right about Lennon.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 2.29pm)

I had a 3x great grandmother from Belfast, but have no 'Irish' genes.
I do have some Scottish ones though, och aye! Does that count?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2023 6.33pm)

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Stirlingsays 10 Jun 23 7.24pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I had a 3x great grandmother from Belfast, but have no 'Irish' genes. I do have some Scottish ones though, och aye! Does that count? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2023 6.33pm) If you feel like fighting after whisky that's genuinely a reasonable clue. I would be nice to visit Stirling one day.....But the actual Stirlings of my name reside in Belfast....very Orange....I find myself getting very Ian Paisley when I'm up there. Not that there is much point, the English from Blair turned their backs on them. I sometimes tell them to come back to Scotland or England, but that's being given away by traitors as well. Even the Irish sold out....all the fighting was completely pointless. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jun 23 7.24pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I had a 3x great grandmother from Belfast, but have no 'Irish' genes.
I do have some Scottish ones though, och aye! Does that count?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2023 6.33pm)

If you feel like fighting after whisky that's genuinely a reasonable clue.

I would be nice to visit Stirling one day.....But the actual Stirlings of my name reside in Belfast....very Orange....I find myself getting very Ian Paisley when I'm up there.

Not that there is much point, the English from Blair turned their backs on them.

I sometimes tell them to come back to Scotland or England, but that's being given away by traitors as well.

Even the Irish sold out....all the fighting was completely pointless.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.29pm)

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Stirlingsays 10 Jun 23 7.56pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Well something is clearly going on, and if you look at it historically, it seems very unlikely that we had technology like has apparently been tracked by the military, especially decades ago, unless we stole it from the ETs. I am a believer because of what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears. If you have no personal experience, then it's reasonable to be on the fence. I think I saw something once, back in my twenties.....but I was probably pissed. I'm open minded about it, advanced alien life is very likely....the only question is the possibility of travelling those great distances....or is it future versions of humans....you know all the speculation and fun of the fair. I helped run an old pub once, back in those twenties and I can definitely confirm that there's something to ghosts, don't know what though....I would regularly hear children's voices and running up and down stairs in a detached building which was empty, get there and it would stop....lights would get turned on in empty rooms, a window would open in a particular room that was kept locked. Lots of stuff like that. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.58pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jun 23 7.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I am a believer because of what I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears.
If you have no personal experience, then it's reasonable to be on the fence.

I think I saw something once, back in my twenties.....but I was probably pissed.

I'm open minded about it, advanced alien life is very likely....the only question is the possibility of travelling those great distances....or is it future versions of humans....you know all the speculation and fun of the fair.

I helped run an old pub once, back in those twenties and I can definitely confirm that there's something to ghosts, don't know what though....I would regularly hear children's voices and running up and down stairs in a detached building which was empty, get there and it would stop....lights would get turned on in empty rooms, a window would open in a particular room that was kept locked. Lots of stuff like that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.58pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 23 8.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think I saw something once, back in my twenties.....but I was probably pissed. I'm open minded about it, advanced alien life is very likely....the only question is the possibility of travelling those great distances....or is it future versions of humans....you know all the speculation and fun of the fair. I helped run an old pub once, back in those twenties and I can definitely confirm that there's something to ghosts, don't know what though....I would regularly hear children's voices and running up and down stairs in a detached building which was empty, get there and it would stop....lights would get turned on in empty rooms, a window would open in a particular room that was kept locked. Lots of stuff like that. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.58pm) I have heard some ghost stories and weird spooky stuff but have never seen anything myself. I'm open to evidence, but I struggle with any ideas about an afterlife unless there is some otherworldly science involved.
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10 Jun 23 8.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think I saw something once, back in my twenties.....but I was probably pissed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2023 7.58pm)

I have heard some ghost stories and weird spooky stuff but have never seen anything myself.

I'm open to evidence, but I struggle with any ideas about an afterlife unless there is some otherworldly science involved.

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