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Stirlingsays 25 May 23 2.05pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Last year of Labour government 2009 net migration 196,000 after Alan Johnson tightened the rules. Small boats 44 migrant arrivals by sea. 'You do the maths' Serial incompetence, bluster, hatred of foreigners is their policy, the tories have been nothing but a disaster. It's not serial incompetence. It's by design and has been by design for decades. This idea that a country can't police its own borders has always been nonsense. It always comes down to will. Everything else is an excuse. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 May 23 2.05pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Last year of Labour government 2009 net migration 196,000 after Alan Johnson tightened the rules.

Small boats 44 migrant arrivals by sea.

'You do the maths'

Serial incompetence, bluster, hatred of foreigners is their policy, the tories have been nothing but a disaster.

It's not serial incompetence.

It's by design and has been by design for decades.

This idea that a country can't police its own borders has always been nonsense. It always comes down to will. Everything else is an excuse.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 2.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It's not serial incompetence. It's by design and has been by design for decades. This idea that a country can't police its own borders has always been nonsense. It always comes down to will. Everything else is an excuse. Absolutely.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not serial incompetence.

It's by design and has been by design for decades.

This idea that a country can't police its own borders has always been nonsense. It always comes down to will. Everything else is an excuse.

Absolutely.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 25 May 23 2.55pm
Britain has one of the easiest borders to protect in the world. We are an island. Most other countries have land borders which are far more difficult to secure. It's going to be a slow tortuous demise, and still there'll be leaders proclaiming,.."it's going to be OK" I disengage, I turn the page.
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Britain has one of the easiest borders to protect in the world. We are an island. Most other countries have land borders which are far more difficult to secure.
It's going to be a slow tortuous demise, and still there'll be leaders proclaiming,.."it's going to be OK"

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 3.08pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Britain has one of the easiest borders to protect in the world. We are an island. Most other countries have land borders which are far more difficult to secure. It's going to be a slow tortuous demise, and still there'll be leaders proclaiming,.."it's going to be OK" There has to be a reaction from the public at the ballot box. Nether Labour or the Tories have any credibility on this. Where is that third party? Please stand up.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 3.08pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

There has to be a reaction from the public at the ballot box.
Nether Labour or the Tories have any credibility on this.

Where is that third party? Please stand up.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 3.15pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Yes, and that is because we have become dependent on foreigners to fill jobs. The way to fix that is not to increase immigration, which is what is happening. What is needed is investment in training so that we have a capable, functioning labour force. We also need to encourage women to start having more children again. At the same time, we need to reduce immigration over a period of time to minimize the impact. Right now, we are just setting ourselves up for a complete meltdown of our social structure. It takes foresight and planning, something that modern politicians seem to lack. People like you of course are oblivious to the consequences. You just think everything will be alright no matter what. Well, The Sun will incinerate The Earth in 8 billion years, so why worry about anything? Increasing training is always worthwhile but it needs resources first and takes time to bear fruit. It’s wise but not the solution. So you think that in an over populated world the solution to our problems is to create more people and presumably allow others to remain poor, or worse? For sure it strains resources but that’s true however you increase the numbers. Resources need to match the numbers and not numbers match resources. Numbers need to match need. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 3.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes, and that is because we have become dependent on foreigners to fill jobs.
The way to fix that is not to increase immigration, which is what is happening.
What is needed is investment in training so that we have a capable, functioning labour force. We also need to encourage women to start having more children again.
At the same time, we need to reduce immigration over a period of time to minimize the impact.

Right now, we are just setting ourselves up for a complete meltdown of our social structure.

It takes foresight and planning, something that modern politicians seem to lack.

People like you of course are oblivious to the consequences. You just think everything will be alright no matter what.

Well, The Sun will incinerate The Earth in 8 billion years, so why worry about anything?

Increasing training is always worthwhile but it needs resources first and takes time to bear fruit. It’s wise but not the solution.

So you think that in an over populated world the solution to our problems is to create more people and presumably allow others to remain poor, or worse?

For sure it strains resources but that’s true however you increase the numbers. Resources need to match the numbers and not numbers match resources. Numbers need to match need.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 3.29pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Increasing training is always worthwhile but it needs resources first and takes time to bear fruit. It’s wise but not the solution. So you think that in an over populated world the solution to our problems is to create more people and presumably allow others to remain poor, or worse? For sure it strains resources but that’s true however you increase the numbers. Resources need to match the numbers and not numbers match resources. Numbers need to match need. The World population problem is about Africans and Asians. European populations have declined, as you know full well. We can control who comes to this country and that is what matters with regards to the culture, heritage and living standards of the British. Our population is being rapidly inflated by economic migrants, many of who contribute nothing to this country and are stripping it of its societal norms. We need to have more children being born to people of British heritage to make mass immigration unnecessary over a period of time. The alternative is ever increasing runaway migration, with one wave supposedly paying for the previous ones. Insanity. How do we possibly need many of the people already here when many are unskilled and unemployed? It is a scandal of the highest level.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 3.29pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Increasing training is always worthwhile but it needs resources first and takes time to bear fruit. It’s wise but not the solution.

So you think that in an over populated world the solution to our problems is to create more people and presumably allow others to remain poor, or worse?

For sure it strains resources but that’s true however you increase the numbers. Resources need to match the numbers and not numbers match resources. Numbers need to match need.

The World population problem is about Africans and Asians.
European populations have declined, as you know full well.

We can control who comes to this country and that is what matters with regards to the culture, heritage and living standards of the British.

Our population is being rapidly inflated by economic migrants, many of who contribute nothing to this country and are stripping it of its societal norms.

We need to have more children being born to people of British heritage to make mass immigration unnecessary over a period of time. The alternative is ever increasing runaway migration, with one wave supposedly paying for the previous ones. Insanity.

How do we possibly need many of the people already here when many are unskilled and unemployed?

It is a scandal of the highest level.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 3.48pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This is Wisbech thinking he's the centre again when in reality he's pushing left wing attitudes to immigration that the majority oppose. This is simply untrue. You and the rest of the right wing cohort that dominate the discussions here are the ones out of touch with mainstream opinion:- [Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 3.48pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is Wisbech thinking he's the centre again when in reality he's pushing left wing attitudes to immigration that the majority oppose.

This is simply untrue. You and the rest of the right wing cohort that dominate the discussions here are the ones out of touch with mainstream opinion:-

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steeleye20 Croydon 25 May 23 4.35pm
Where do they get that 'leftie' stuff from, the Tories have been in power, with one break with Blair, since 1980. And inhumanity will not solve any problem only make it worse. The right is out of sight all their ideology a total failure.
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Croydon 25 May 23 4.35pm

Where do they get that 'leftie' stuff from, the Tories have been in power, with one break with Blair, since 1980.

And inhumanity will not solve any problem only make it worse.

The right is out of sight all their ideology a total failure.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.38pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Twaddle. I can't be bothered to argue with someone on this subject who is so totally dishonest. You can be sure that I won’t miss your responses. Xenophobia is always upsetting to witness. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.38pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Twaddle.

I can't be bothered to argue with someone on this subject who is so totally dishonest.

You can be sure that I won’t miss your responses. Xenophobia is always upsetting to witness.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Where do they get that 'leftie' stuff from, the Tories have been in power, with one break with Blair, since 1980. And inhumanity will not solve any problem only make it worse. The right is out of sight all their ideology a total failure. They reached their high point, and consequently our lowest, with Brexit. It’s been going backwards ever since for them as the lies have been exposed for all to see. Now they are in full retreat. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Where do they get that 'leftie' stuff from, the Tories have been in power, with one break with Blair, since 1980.

And inhumanity will not solve any problem only make it worse.

The right is out of sight all their ideology a total failure.

They reached their high point, and consequently our lowest, with Brexit. It’s been going backwards ever since for them as the lies have been exposed for all to see. Now they are in full retreat.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.47pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Britain has one of the easiest borders to protect in the world. We are an island. Most other countries have land borders which are far more difficult to secure. It's going to be a slow tortuous demise, and still there'll be leaders proclaiming,.."it's going to be OK" You can put barbed wire, electric fences, lights and electronic surveillance on land. More difficult on thousands of miles of coastline swept by tides and populated by holiday makers. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.47pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

You can put barbed wire, electric fences, lights and electronic surveillance on land. More difficult on thousands of miles of coastline swept by tides and populated by holiday makers.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger There has to be a reaction from the public at the ballot box. Nether Labour or the Tories have any credibility on this. Where is that third party? Please stand up. There’ll be a reaction. Just not the one you hope for. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There has to be a reaction from the public at the ballot box.
Nether Labour or the Tories have any credibility on this.

Where is that third party? Please stand up.

There’ll be a reaction. Just not the one you hope for.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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